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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 207

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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 205
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1511354807/

Hey!!! All you NEETs, nerds, YouTube link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboo from around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys, Touhou pirates, and
that electrical super-gay who suffers from mental disease - This is your thread!
Let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!

We all wish for permanent world peace!
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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 206
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1516987808/
0278名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa23-q0rK)
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2018/05/02(水) 17:43:50.54ID:izABCxLua
>>277
No, not actually.
I don't think there are many non-Japanese speakers on the 5channel online forum.
In the same vein, I assume all users are Japanese speakers, whether they are gaijin or not.
0279名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW c1bd-x1HS)
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2018/05/02(水) 22:54:44.01ID:ZOrBxmdD0
I’m back from gym and grocery shopping.
You know what? I was taken aback by annoying brats at Eon because it’s past 10pm and parents are supposed to bring those shit-smelling kids to bed! The Yutori parents...

Well, people say “like father, like son”...right?
0285名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 898d-c97c)
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2018/05/02(水) 23:58:13.01ID:IJCSSfNb0
I said there is a rule that can stop Chinese from buying our land, but I might have confused it with some other matter.
Also I thought I would be ok with just eating gyoza and ditching other Chinese food, but I forgot about mabo-dofu.
0293名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 27c1-a7mP)
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2018/05/03(木) 10:10:15.40ID:0Xd0hyaS0
Ramen always reminds me of the memory where my friends and I are drunk so badly that some of us throw up outside the restaurant in the middle of eating,
busting out the place like they just saw their long gone grandfather alive.
And I bet some of you guys can relate to this type of story as well.
I'm just so grateful of the fact that I myself have never messed up like that yet.
Once I stand out in the public doing something juvenile like that, I can't shake that off my head for a while for sure.
0294名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 8a24-K8ez)
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2018/05/03(木) 12:13:22.15ID:3Q3rCBxZ0
>>281
Oh, I didn't know that 4chan has many Japanese users. Are their explanations good?

Anyway, Reddit is a good resource for us Japanese to be familiar with the variety of writing styles. Some people write really good sentences, sometimes it seems to excel the level of newspapers.
0296名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ caa8-bmQX)
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2018/05/03(木) 19:05:09.66ID:DvlK/cIa0
>>293
Hi,
I think your command of English is excellent, very smooth, natural.
You seem to be able to express your thoughts in English as freely as if it is your mother tongue.

If you don't mind, may I ask you a few questions?
1) Are you Japanese? If so, are you a returnee child, so-called 帰国子女 in Japanese?
Or maybe you have an experience of studying abroad?
2) How have you become so good at conversational English?

I'm Japanese myself, a learner of English.
I have only a limited command of English and want to improve it very much.
If you have any advice for me, I'd really appreciate it.
If you think my questions are too inquisitive, you don't need to answer me.

Thanks for reading this.
0302名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 27c1-a7mP)
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2018/05/04(金) 02:30:40.31ID:PbBOtLl10
>>296
That's so nice of you saying that, but actually my writing skill is very limited unlike you might think I am.
That being said, since you asked me so politely, I'll try my best to answer them.

1) I'm 100% Japanese, back in college I used to stay shortly in Canada for learning English though.

2) As for this part, there's not really a special technique or anything.
I just always read/listen VERY carefully to movies, passages, books and podcasts, etc. sometimes again and again.
As I was working on that, you may or may not notice there's a pattern they follow in most of their lines.
I analyze and learn them by words to words, rephrase them in my own words when writing. It's actually that simple.
Even when we speak Japanese, you can totally see that almost everyone follows the similar sentence structures, right?
Those ones that don't quite fit in them will sometimes sound a bit awkward imo.
Phrasal verbs (such as "walk down/stand up") and rephrasing & avoid using too many of the same words in one sentence also help you in this.

In conversational English, I think it's very important to pick out the words that's commonly in use, not some random words from your dictionary;
always remember you don't write in a literal translating way, because you can't be sure that they sound right.
Whenever you feel you can't find the right expression for your ideas, just look for another more natural way of saying them.
And most importantly, immerse yourself in English. Only this will nurture your sense of what's right or wrong.
Double the amount you see English everyday if you think your English is not good enough. (Personally I don't think you need to)

Your English is very good, so whatever you are doing now, just keep it up. Maybe that will get you to the point that you are going for there.
I think that concludes my little pieces of advice, I hope this will be of some help.
0304名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ caa8-bmQX)
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2018/05/04(金) 10:11:20.61ID:DEA8u3yC0
>>302
Thank you very much for your answer! Your kind advice has struck home to me.
I’m 100% Japanese, too, and have never stayed abroad.
I’m learning English because I simply like to do so. But I sometimes feel very anxious about whether I am doing it right way.
I knew from your answer that your natural way of writing is supported by your great efforts and hard work.
This encourages me very much because if I keep working, it is possible that someday I might be able to write English freely and naturally like you do.
Thank you again for your kind and detailed advice. I’ll keep it in mind and keep studying. :D
0305名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 6bbd-j75q)
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2018/05/04(金) 12:18:09.62ID:OwnQBpUW0
Fuck. Remember the annoying kids I talked about the other day? They are screaming and playing in the road at the moment. What bugs me most is that super loud noises this kid’s car thing makes by scratching the ground.

Fuck them. Hope a huge meteorite would drop on their empty-heads right now!!!!
0308名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 8a24-K8ez)
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2018/05/04(金) 14:13:52.63ID:Zqptd7VO0
Are you talking about something obscene? Sorry, I don't like the one.

By the way, writing "recognizable" sentence is relatively easy but writing flawless and natural sentences is by far difficult.
The former can be likened to driving a car and the latter is almost identical to flying a plane.
I sometimes correct Japanese learners essays. Some of the advanced learners can produce almost error-free essays, still, those tend to be full of unnatural expressions so that I have to rewrite them from scratch.

I don't know how to achieve native levels in naturalness.
0312名無しさん@英語勉強中 (JPW 0H16-/ihs)
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2018/05/05(土) 02:20:36.86ID:Biyjm+uWH
What is your best movie ever?
I like "ガタカ"
0316名無しさん@英語勉強中 (コードモT Sa82-NrvC)
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2018/05/05(土) 15:15:24.00ID:Z1ufRFaUa0505
I has grown increasingly nervous as the Golden Week holiday season draws to a close.
It is always a difficult ordeal to return to work after a long holiday.
I am wondering what to do today because I have made the schedule vacant for the last two days of the holiday.
And today draws to a close...
Have a great day, everybody.
0317名無しさん@英語勉強中 (コードモT Sa82-NrvC)
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2018/05/05(土) 15:18:22.24ID:Z1ufRFaUa0505
>>316
Correction:
The word "has" in the first sentence should have been written "have."
0322名無しさん@英語勉強中 (トンモー MMc7-+u6B)
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2018/05/06(日) 01:04:00.84ID:adf6WKaBM
>>323

> Good morning!
>
> I'd like to ask whoever writes in English on a daily basis about how to type on smartphones. I use gboard and voice typing. Is it the common way to write, or are there other better ways?


I use google keyboard.
What's gboard?
0327名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 0a47-yVpc)
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2018/05/06(日) 09:20:27.12ID:1vyFlqLI0
>>326
in this website...everyone is just tweeting, not chatting.
0328名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 3f40-NrvC)
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2018/05/06(日) 11:03:11.00ID:6wL0GDk20
>>312
>What is your best movie ever?
I'm a gaijin, but I like japanese cinema a lot. My knowledge of it is quite limited, however.
Some of my favorite japanese directors are Yasujiro Ozu, Hiroshi Teshigahara and Masaki Kobayashi.
What do you guys think about them?
0329名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 8724-K8ez)
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2018/05/06(日) 13:06:53.21ID:qCC4J/fu0
Umm, I don't know any of them...
You are quite familiar with old movies. Sometimes foreigners remind me how little I know about my own culture.

Now, I get addicted to Reddit. I spent hours reading and posting in them. This is no good. I should abolish this habit.
0330名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 27c7-QU2X)
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2018/05/06(日) 13:42:19.90ID:1vlFfU2K0
If I remember correctly, there used to be a geek whose nickname was subject.
He would often visit here and posted ascii art a lot. It seemed to me that he suffered from some mental illness
I sometimes talked with him and he said he is from England.
I forgot almost everything he told me , but there is one thing which still sticks in my mind.
He said that he was a big fan of Ozu Yasujiro, and saw a movie entitled " Tokyo Monogatari" many times.
His remarks whetted my appetite for what's so appealing about it.
0331名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ブーイモ MMc7-lavJ)
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2018/05/06(日) 14:11:56.94ID:QWyQCcLBM
Hi buddy
does anybody know nicer english school that costs us not-expensively in los angeles?
i thought it was in or nearby korea town possibly
0338名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa82-QU2X)
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2018/05/06(日) 23:51:17.31ID:xNiw0lsFa
thank you.
i remember that i once applied for a job at costco
but i failed the 2nd round of the interview.
at the 1st round of the interview, i also took several kinds of tests including english, mathematics etc.
i scored perfect for the mathematics but the english test devastated me...too difficult.
0339名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 6bbd-80IO)
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2018/05/07(月) 00:28:49.60ID:bCtpqyl10
Gas is a lot cheaper at Costco than most gas stations, you know that?

The English test at Costco was too difficult? I thought it’s a piece of cake to get a job at Costco... apparently it’s not.

Anyway, have a nice week!
0343名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワキゲー MM96-yVpc)
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2018/05/07(月) 11:54:03.15ID:osohxEkEM
>>342
no.
instead, i am here.
0345名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワキゲー MM96-yVpc)
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2018/05/07(月) 14:38:42.37ID:Cr8r9naQM
>>344
see >>327.
0347名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワキゲー MM96-yVpc)
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2018/05/07(月) 17:15:14.84ID:fsLLwL6xM
>>346
congrats
0349名無しさん@英語勉強中 (JPW 0H16-/ihs)
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2018/05/07(月) 19:05:33.55ID:QF4TBnULH
You're talking to me?
0353名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 27c1-a7mP)
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2018/05/08(火) 20:00:32.27ID:emLA807X0
>>319
I used to often hang out with the girl who's had that 1st girl's personality and a bit from 5th one.
From her stories, she stalks her ex, she bears with any violence from her partner, she casually sleeps with almost anyone she likes, and so on.
I don't know if this has anything to do with those personality profiling, but sometimes I'm surprised to find out how they all turn out to have similar negative experiences like that.
Does this indicate that all girls, deep down inside, are subconsciously seeking for abusive relationships? Where do you stand on this, guys?
0354名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW abae-lavJ)
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2018/05/08(火) 21:44:42.99ID:6S8a5t010
>>352
so many Hentai ass???
Oh what a crap I get you are a fucking phyco chasing the ass
0355名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa82-QU2X)
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2018/05/08(火) 22:12:38.53ID:fSL6l2t0a
i go to a specific barber shop.
when i visit the shop, i usually request to have my bangs cut moderately.
but one of the staffs working there cut my bangs slightly too much,
no matter how many times i request him to have my bangs cut moderately...
0357名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa82-QU2X)
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2018/05/08(火) 22:30:47.74ID:fSL6l2t0a
i think that how much money you have paid into your ic card like suika, pasmo or ikoka is
a piece of important personal information.
so, i feel uncomfortable if the amount of money i have paid into my card is clearly shown
on the monitors of those automatic ticket-checking machines placed at the exits or entrances
of stations when i pass by them and touch my card on them...
of course i can understand it helps you know how much is left and can be spent.
0359名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワキゲー MM96-yVpc)
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2018/05/09(水) 00:05:34.01ID:1ylwkf27M
>>357
i think the history of cards is important information, but the amount at the moment of tapping is not so important or worth being protected.
0362名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 27c1-a7mP)
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2018/05/09(水) 19:06:04.78ID:ApaWzCGJ0
>>357
Maybe it's an elaborate ruse by the railway companies taking advantage of how Japanese always worrying too much about other's eyes and make people buy their deposits more often than necessary. The funny thing is it's totally working for me...
0364名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa82-QU2X)
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2018/05/09(水) 23:23:27.38ID:dWsxOuLaa
>>362
he〜he〜
but putting more money into your card than necessary would be better than being blocked
by the doors (?) of the machines because of lack of money.
that high-pitched alarm sound is really embarrasing,
especially when there are a lot of people around you.
0365名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa82-QU2X)
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2018/05/09(水) 23:32:25.94ID:dWsxOuLaa
i remember that my former boss gave me an interesting advice for effectively learning engish.
that was "don't look up an english word or phrase in a dictionary. if you do it, you can't keep up with native speakers' speech or writing rate".
about 10 years have passed since she gave me the advice but i still look up english words sometimes.
0367名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワキゲー MM96-yVpc)
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2018/05/09(水) 23:36:41.03ID:xVwxmGMlM
>>362
this is not true because there is no reason for JR to collect the deposit money more. the deposit is a kind of debt of their balance sheet.
0368名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 7dc1-uwJI)
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2018/05/10(木) 01:15:52.58ID:hgO06DdZ0
>>364
You're right. I don't like getting caught up in a situation like that which is why I always refill the card as soon as I notice the stored money gets less than 2000 yen.
With that precaution I still had to go through the same kind of humiliation when I failed to place my card on that reader properly and the gate blocked me off like I was trying to get a free ride.
Now I have to get nervous every time I use them all thanks to that stupid gates.

>>367
I barely know management theory, but besides the balance sheet or all the other technicality, we actually have to spend our cash and they get the cash, I think that's all that counts for me here.
0369名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウオー Sa93-C0op)
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2018/05/10(木) 09:19:19.42ID:Kp31yUTxa
>>373

> i remember that my former boss gave me an interesting advice for effectively learning engish.
> that was "don't look up an english word or phrase in a dictionary. if you do it, you can't keep up with native speakers' speech or writing rate".
> about 10 years have passed since she gave me the advice but i still look up english words sometimes.



Does she do what in place of such looking up?
0371名無しさん@英語勉強中 (JPW 0H2b-Y4OB)
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2018/05/10(木) 19:33:41.99ID:eKdFgWdYH
>>369
これの日本訳ください
引用部分は結構です
0373名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 05ae-NqC6)
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2018/05/10(木) 22:44:38.28ID:eV9qKC3s0
>>372
As you were
How it sounds this guy speaks English is awful Is that so much more natural huh?lol
Aint you going to spend your fxxxin' time for your headcircus??????????haha
0374名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 05ae-NqC6)
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2018/05/10(木) 22:46:16.50ID:eV9qKC3s0
>>372
And for another tip,
Dont you use English slangs that make you look a fool
0375名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 05ae-NqC6)
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2018/05/10(木) 22:55:05.59ID:eV9qKC3s0
>>369
農場のおばはんが英語学習のアドバイスくれたで
「辞書とかでフレーズとかいちいち単語調べてばっかやとあたしらと話すときに出てこねーぞ書くときもそう」
あれから十年くらいたったけど時々調べてまうなあ

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