Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 207
■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています
＿ｎ＿
／/ ｜ヽ＼
┏─┐／ / ｜ ヽ ＼
┃千│⌒⌒⌒‖⌒⌒⌒
┃利│ ‖
┃休│ ‖
┠─┘ [二]
┃ _ﾛ==(´･ω･)＜drink Ayataka
┃／ (::) ( >oｙ>o＼
／日[二]と＿＿)_{三}＼
￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣
Previous Thread:
Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 205
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1511354807/
Hey!!! All you NEETs, nerds, YouTube link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboo from around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys, Touhou pirates, and
that electrical super-gay who suffers from mental disease - This is your thread!
Let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!
We all wish for permanent world peace!
※前スレ
Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 206
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1516987808/ >>342
no.
instead, i am here. >>351
> >>342
> no.
> instead, i am here.
Why don't you tell me why? whether it is fine or not, jr saikyo-line trains tend to not arrive at station.
especially at the akabane-station, the platform is so packed that
there are even passengers waiting in line downstairs. I heard that so many hentais ars on the saikyo line. >>319
I used to often hang out with the girl who's had that 1st girl's personality and a bit from 5th one.
From her stories, she stalks her ex, she bears with any violence from her partner, she casually sleeps with almost anyone she likes, and so on.
I don't know if this has anything to do with those personality profiling, but sometimes I'm surprised to find out how they all turn out to have similar negative experiences like that.
Does this indicate that all girls, deep down inside, are subconsciously seeking for abusive relationships? Where do you stand on this, guys? >>352
so many Hentai ass???
Oh what a crap I get you are a fucking phyco chasing the ass i go to a specific barber shop.
when i visit the shop, i usually request to have my bangs cut moderately.
but one of the staffs working there cut my bangs slightly too much,
no matter how many times i request him to have my bangs cut moderately... >>354
Thank you for introducing yourself. Scum i think that how much money you have paid into your ic card like suika, pasmo or ikoka is
a piece of important personal information.
so, i feel uncomfortable if the amount of money i have paid into my card is clearly shown
on the monitors of those automatic ticket-checking machines placed at the exits or entrances
of stations when i pass by them and touch my card on them...
of course i can understand it helps you know how much is left and can be spent. mother's day & father's day are coming soon this month.
it may be good for you to think about how to give your parents a big smile on these special days. >>357
i think the history of cards is important information, but the amount at the moment of tapping is not so important or worth being protected. >>364
> >>354
> Thank you for introducing yourself. Scum
Why scum? >>357
Maybe it's an elaborate ruse by the railway companies taking advantage of how Japanese always worrying too much about other's eyes and make people buy their deposits more often than necessary. The funny thing is it's totally working for me... Fuck the gas is getting expensive...! >>362
he〜he〜
but putting more money into your card than necessary would be better than being blocked
by the doors (?) of the machines because of lack of money.
that high-pitched alarm sound is really embarrasing,
especially when there are a lot of people around you. i remember that my former boss gave me an interesting advice for effectively learning engish.
that was "don't look up an english word or phrase in a dictionary. if you do it, you can't keep up with native speakers' speech or writing rate".
about 10 years have passed since she gave me the advice but i still look up english words sometimes. >>362
this is not true because there is no reason for JR to collect the deposit money more. the deposit is a kind of debt of their balance sheet. >>364
You're right. I don't like getting caught up in a situation like that which is why I always refill the card as soon as I notice the stored money gets less than 2000 yen.
With that precaution I still had to go through the same kind of humiliation when I failed to place my card on that reader properly and the gate blocked me off like I was trying to get a free ride.
Now I have to get nervous every time I use them all thanks to that stupid gates.
>>367
I barely know management theory, but besides the balance sheet or all the other technicality, we actually have to spend our cash and they get the cash, I think that's all that counts for me here. >>373
> i remember that my former boss gave me an interesting advice for effectively learning engish.
> that was "don't look up an english word or phrase in a dictionary. if you do it, you can't keep up with native speakers' speech or writing rate".
> about 10 years have passed since she gave me the advice but i still look up english words sometimes.
Does she do what in place of such looking up? >>371
> Fuck the gas is getting expensive...!
You should get a diesel one. >>369
これの日本訳ください
引用部分は結構です This guy’s English is always fucked up, dude. >>372
As you were
How it sounds this guy speaks English is awful Is that so much more natural huh?lol
Aint you going to spend your fxxxin' time for your headcircus??????????haha >>372
And for another tip,
Dont you use English slangs that make you look a fool >>369
農場のおばはんが英語学習のアドバイスくれたで
「辞書とかでフレーズとかいちいち単語調べてばっかやとあたしらと話すときに出てこねーぞ書くときもそう」
あれから十年くらいたったけど時々調べてまうなあ
ニュアンスを勉強しろってことだよ
パズルじゃねーよってこと Too many ? make you look a fool
lol >>376
What is "Too many?" as what you wrote?
Okay Do Understand that you're elementary either and Of course I am.
But please get a grip on yourself and do not be aggressive to any of us by writing like >>372 >>372
> This guy’s English is always fucked up, dude.
Your head is fucked up actually. >>377
Look who’s talking! Are you Korean or something? >>378
Why are you so edgy? Are you having your period? lol >>365, >>375
I agree with her.
For concrete/objective nouns like "apple" "dog" "tower", it's for our best just looking them up,
but when it comes to very abstract notions such as "confirm" "associate" "take", dictionaries would be rather counter-productive. >>380
> >>378
> Why are you so edgy? Are you having your period? lol
Period? Let’s make a discussion.
Should we,unnative speaker of english ,need to get correct pronounce
,grammer,spelling etc? >>383
I think it is extremely hard for non-native speakers of English who started learning it at a certain age or older
to acquire native levels of naturalness in it.
Even if our English is not perfect, it would be all right if we can get across our ideas to a person
who we are talking to or writing to.
Still, I think it is important for us to try hard and improve our English so that we can communicate better. https://mobile.twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/994963592238780417
This gives me a food for thought.
Maybe I should call the police everytime I see white gaijins in Japan. They are detrimental.
Look at the end of the video! Ugly white crying face ;))))) just like some people, i wonder why there is no single national holiday in june in japan .
i think that politicians should look into proposing a bill to set up the new national holiday in June.
the next national hoiday is "marine day", no less than 2 months away from golden week... This thread is nice.
But,Take a look at sister site as listed below.
http://bbs.sp.findfriends.jp/?pid=thread_detail&;id=115921&pager_type=pager&page=1&w4&w4
That's ok if you don't come to the site. this jerk has kept deceiving people for several previous threads.
that shit is not a sister site at all, in fact completely unrelated to this thread..
what is more, this jerk tried to lured people here to suspicious offline meeting
in a previous thread.
now you understand how fishy the jerk is.
FOR YOUR SAFETY, KEEP AWAY FROM THE JERK!!
ALSO IT'S PROHIBITED ADVERTISING OTHER SITES IN 5CH. >>385
Is she even listening to others? That woman shooting the video clearly said "having barbecue in this park is not against the laws",
and the guy also reiterated they knew it was fine to barbecue there, they had been living there long enough to know that well, but she didn't seem to understand either of them.
I can't help but noticing that she was just deliberately being deaf to anything that was contradictory to her beliefs. Well, I'm not surprised, because racists are just a bunch of morons.
And you know what you are doing right there shouting for "no gaijins/whites in Japan" bullshit is not different from that woman in the video. Ugh white gaijin wanabee... >>390
What the hell are you talking about? Just because I'm defending them doesn't mean I worship them. I'm just rightful about the things that need to be mentioned.
If you don't like them so much, why are you speaking English in the first place? And in case you don't notice this at this point, you should know that you've been self-contradicting yourself and being ridiculous here. I wonder why you express gaijin however it's foreigner. it just seems depending on people
if you call foreigner gaijin as a japanese to the other, you don't hate them at all because you're childish
just behave awkward and pretend yourself cooler you know
it's not a big deal let go of it >>394
Must be hard to go through your life with that level of retardation.
You are literally too naive to discuss about any topic. I'm tired of both the mental gym Korean and the morons that keep responding to him in a boring way.
Gaijins like Igirisujin and Stinky American would handle him with ease and humor.
By the way, I agree that 害人 are detrimental and should be deported.
If I was living in a foreign country and the Japanese there were acting like 害人, I would expect them to be killed by the local people and also fear for my own safety. a supermarket near my house offers limited kinds of ice cream,
which they think are very competitive in terms of price, compared with their competitors.
i am not against their sales strategy but even so, i expect them to expand their offerings.
i want to eat ice cream by minor manufactures too. >>397
wide range of ice cream...
It depends on the location of a shop. I have trying learn the english again. what should i do at the first.
Anyway, My grammars are broken.
But just I found something good application “Anki”. It isn’t “Aniki”.
also English grammar in Use for Anki has been distribution for free. This is so fantastic!!
please fix my sentence, if you have feel something is wrong with them. >>392
> I wonder why you express gaijin however it's foreigner.
And why he hates such gaijin speaking english? >>375
> >>369
> 農場のおばはんが英語学習のアドバイスくれたで
> 「辞書とかでフレーズとかいちいち単語調べてばっかやとあたしらと話すときに出てこねーぞ書くときもそう」
> あれから十年くらいたったけど時々調べてまうなあ
>
> ニュアンスを勉強しろってことだよ
> パズルじゃねーよってこと
Fix your bad attitude, I agree! Some people are too aggressive here! >>402
It is what it is. In generally a ton of the typical Japanese are aggressive on an online.
We never couldn't see the face each other.
But if we must to make faces public by the legal duty when we have using the Internet, they’er will have gentlemanly behavior. Raning cats and dogs outside. No motivation to go ouside. I wish someone will do some errands for me. This thread is nice.
But,Take a look at sister site as listed below because you’ll see a new world.
http://bbs.sp.findfriends.jp/?pid=thread_detail&;id=115921&pager_type=pager&page=1&w4&w4
That's ok if you don't come to the site. 「ブスにも人権を」って
Human rights in uglyでいいですか？ Human rights for even ugly whores too!!!!! Recently I realized how fun Reddit is. >>407
ありがとうございます
whoresって娼婦の意味っぽいですがここは必要でしょうか？
ブスの権利ならどうなるでしょう？ >>401
I just tried to make things simplified baby >>417
> >>407
> ありがとうございます
> whoresって娼婦の意味っぽいですがここは必要でしょうか？
> ブスの権利ならどうなるでしょう？
In english please. >>414
> 「ブスにも人権を」って
> Human rights in uglyでいいですか？
English please. I little bit feel that this thread has a fewer user than before. I have hardly called gaijin or foreigner when I describe about people from other countries. In my opinion, there is no difference between the two words.
Does the word “gaijin” sound exclusive whereas “foreigner” doesn’t sound exclusive? It does sound exclusive also. Gaijin just means foreigner in Japanese. The nuance is also totally same.
To me, both words sound a sort of cold and unfriendly and because of this reason I tend to abstain from using them and choose another word instead.
The better version of gaijin or foreigner might be “international person”, “non-japanese people”, or just “people from a different country”. I recommend that you guys use these words. ＞The better version of gaijin or foreigner might be “international person”, “non-japanese people”, or just “people from a different country”. I recommend that you guys use these words.
Too long.... >>415
I understand that, but generally polite expressions should be longer than casual words. This inconvenience can apply to japanese language also. 外国の方 or 海外の方 is longer than just saying 外人, right?
We just need to torelate it and get used to it. Well, still I conitune to call them “gaijin” or “害人”. Maybe “外国人” if they are nice people. As u wish. I dont give a shit I don’t give a fuck as well >>416-417
I prefer "gweilo" >>408
> Recently I realized how fun Reddit is.
Don’t you know that we have 英語で雑談 in Reddit too? >>420
> Please gimme your shit
You’re bullshit Mr.abnormal. >>414
I found that the only people who are really sensitive about the word "gaijin" in Japan are those who just moved here and haven't quite adjusted to the culture yet. Or just whinny whites which came to Japan and never discriminated agaist back home.
They are the worst. >>424
In many other countries, people of multiple ethnicity are very common and because of that, locals will no longer bother to address them "foreigners" imo.
Additionally, people overseas would most probably find the word derogatory and offending since it almost implies that they are basically not the part of their community even though they strongly believe they are,
and sometimes people use it on purpose to set themselves apart from them, I assume.
On that note, Japan is a relatively unique country. When addressing someone a "foreigner", most people here don't mean to offend them nor reject their presence by calling so.
It's a shame they don't take that as we meant them to be, I guess it's one of the most important things to take note beforehand for anyone to come visit Japan. I’m eating popato chips again... ugh so good but feel guilty after eating it different people have different viewpoints and everybody is ok in this thread.
this thread will go on and on in that way... >>429
> different people have different viewpoints and everybody is ok in this thread.
> this thread will go on and on in that way...
Very agree! >>428
> I’m eating popato chips again... ugh so good but feel guilty after eating it
Yesterday I went to a Seven eleven.
And realize the fact that there has a lot of seems nice snacks.
Amazing! >>288
> >>285
> I like 青椒肉絲 by the way.
Hummm .
Sounds nice, This thread is nice.
But,Take a look at sister site as listed below because you’ll see a new world.
http://bbs.sp.findfriends.jp/?pid=thread_detail&;id=115921&pager_type=pager&page=1&w4&w4
That's ok if you don't come to the site. A question for the native Japanese speakers: what is your interpretation or feeling of 〜ている verbs?
In English, 〜ている is taught as the continuative form (歩いている = walking) and the form for the result of a state change (知っている = know, as in "I know"),
but from what I know about Japanese grammar, my intuition is that this form isn't any different than the use of 〜て as a connective form (座って食べる) and いる, as in to exist.
What do you think of this intuition?
Do you view utterances such as "食べている" as a single word or two words (or maybe even three)?
If so do you feel いる has any semantic meaning or is it purely an auxiliary verb like ます (食べます) to you?
Somewhat related but can there be ambiguity in meaning between a resultant state and continuative action?
For example, can "パンを食べている" mean both "(I) am eating bread" and "There is bread which has been eaten"? >>434
食べている is one word.
In dialog 食べている is equall to 食べてる.
You pronounce 食べてる in only one breath. >>434
I have no expert knowledge of Japanese language. So what I say is only a guess.
> this form isn't any different than the use of 〜て as a connective form (座って食べる) and いる, as in to exist.
I have never interpreted 〜ている like that, but come to think of it, yes, your intuition could be right.
When written in a kanji form, いる is 居る, meaning being present somewhere.
When we are eating, we are eating and at the same time we are present at a place where we are eating.
> can there be ambiguity in meaning between a resultant state and continuative action?
> For example, can "パンを食べている" mean both "(I) am eating bread" and "There is bread which has been eaten"?
Yes, I think there could be ambiguity as you say.
But normally, when we say "パンを食べている", it means "(I) am eating bread."
As for your second interpretation, "There is bread which has been eaten", we will say "パンを食べてしまっている" in that case. 歩い+て+いる I'm walking
て: auxiliary connective
いる: auxiliary verb that implies a continuative action.
This can be applied to 食べ+て+いる: I'm eating.
食べ+ます
ます: a polite expression
This just means "I will eat".
知っ+て+いる
て:auxiliary connective
いる:auxiliary verb that implies present state.
As this shows there is no ambiguity between a "continuative action" and "present state".
パンを食べている clearly means I'm eating bread. I don't think it has any other meanings. I think the difficulties for learners of Japanese language arise from dictionaries. Even some Japanese native speakers find it difficult to search exact explanations in Japanese Japanese dictionaries.
And English native speakers tend to analyze phrases quite grammatically. This is not common for Japanese.
I think few people, if any, pay attention to grammatical structures so sometimes it is difficult for Japanese native speakers to explain it grammatically.
I think this is quite opposite to English native speakers. I've heard that they analyze grammatical structures in English on a daily basis. Reviewing my own sentences make me feel sad...
I wish I could write more natural sentences... Fuck the Japanese launguage. Why is that English did not become the official launguage when Japan lost WW2? Both English and Japanese have their own distinguished advantages.
And learning other languages itself has huge benefit to our brain. Japanese has its own beauty.
Plus, if we forget Japanese, we lose access to our cultural ancestries. ■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています
