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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 208
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0001名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ c2a8-PNnE)
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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 207
https://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1523616417/

Hey!!! All you NEETs, nerds, YouTube link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboo from around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys, Touhou pirates, and
that electrical super-gay who suffers from mental disease - This is your thread!
Let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!

We all wish for permanent world peace!
0498名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ dbc1-IeV5)
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2018/08/13(月) 00:36:07.34ID:/jKLQPKy0
>>497
Do you even watch TV? When it switches to commercials there are tons of companies adopting anime characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkoXAIQDo30 (From Nissin Foods)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Gb8WBjbKs (From Benesse)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1-9Tc6kD_c (From McDonald's)

These are only a few examples to show how often we could have to face them in the ads recently or currently aired on Japan. Just look up the words on Youtube if you think otherwise.
As for the flyers, I don't remember the company's names, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it many times before in my office's hallways or at some stations.


>>I said you are "wrong" because I believe the second sentence of 490 is objectively not true

Do you know what "objective" means? I know there's a chance that this might not be one of those otakus ideas, but how can you be so sure when it's not shown in number or without you actually seeing it with your own eyes?
0503名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW cbbd-CPbM)
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2018/08/13(月) 03:23:48.20ID:OLebfkLH0
There might be practical reasons why some companies use anime characters in their ads.
For instance, Otakus don't hesitate to spend money to get anything that has even slightly to do with anime, even if it costs them far more than it's worth. And companies have every reason to capitalize on that, don't they?
Or it might just be that using anime characters costs less than signing a contract with actual acters/actresses.
Anyway, I think the recent upsurge in anime ads is mostly about making profits, not preaching Otaku culture or something.
if most people find these ads disgusting, companies would drop them immediately or wouldn't let them go out in the first place. It would badly affect their sales otherwise.
0505名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 078d-Qb5F)
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2018/08/13(月) 12:38:51.24ID:JIzfj4u+0
>>498
The anime style used in those 3 commercials are not really otaku stuff. Those are cinematic anime style which doesn't cater to otakus only but is accepted by a wider audience.

Seeing your over-the-top disgust towards the flyers, I thought you were complaining about more otaku-ish things like "moe" or some vulgar stuff.
If you were complaining about the kind of stuff shown in the videos from the beginning, then I just pity you for having such a morbidly low tolerance to anything anime.

But for the sake of the argument, let's say those commercials are disgusting otaku shit that is only accepted by otakus.
Now, were the decisions to make and air those commercials made by otakus? I don't think so.
Otakus are not the ones who are making the disgusting anime shit ads. Rather, the companies make those ads to attract otakus like >>503 said.
So otakus are not the ones you should be blaming for the disgusting anime shit ads. That was my point from the beginning.
0507名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ dbc1-IeV5)
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2018/08/13(月) 15:15:37.11ID:/jKLQPKy0
>>503
That's true. Maybe people don't like them as much I do. But personally, I won't stop using their services just because I hate their commercials if I need it.
Ironically, these anime ads are mostly from major companies so perhaps it just wouldn't immediately result in decrease in their sales because people need them.
>>504
I said he can't say it's wrong when they can't be observed on a numerical scale or are "objectively" evident to everyone's eyes.
I didn't say anything about we shouldn't talk about each of our subjective viewpoints here. Just go back to sucking your mother's breasts, illiterate dumbass.
>>505
What makes you think they're not?? Their drawn-style quite resembles to that of recent anime, or at least much different from the other ones that's generally seen as normal & ordinary, and weren't uniquely produced in Japan.
I doubt that they are widely accepted, It's just people usually won't give a damn about stuff that doesn't worth paying attention to. When they watch it, I think most of them might not feel comfortable as you think they do.
And yes, I especially don't like those just boys & just girls stuff. Are they nuts? I mean, they are like national broadcasting of porn videos. There's gotta be something wrong about this country to think THAT and you guys defensing their stuff here.
Maybe nerds aren't solely responsible for all this, but it won't change the way I feel about seeing them in public.
>>506
I don't think they are innocent at all. And I'm not mad. I'm just so embarrassed and disgusted to the fact that some people are ok with them aired on TV & used as promoting characters.
0508名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW caa3-ah6m)
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2018/08/13(月) 16:11:10.48ID:/cAucLTs0
>>507
You seem to have extremely limited reading abilities.

>>496
>which I think most people find disgusting

This line cited from your comment is directed at 492 rather than 494 who said you were wrong.
If I were you, I can't bear this shame lol.

And you said,

>It's like they're forcing their ideals onto everyone else.

It's clear that you're trying to impose your skewed views on others even though you have said like this. Your comment is full of contradiction.
You are not rational in all senses.

Again your reading skill is extremely limited. You don't reach C2 level that I have accomplished long before.

Ignorance makes you arrogant.
0509名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 17de-Z8f/)
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2018/08/13(月) 16:18:16.73ID:1k9ZjU9k0
I always thought the D in the Disney logo looked like a backwards G.
0512名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ dbc1-IeV5)
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2018/08/13(月) 18:13:24.58ID:/jKLQPKy0
Calm down there.
You said "I was contradicting myself" BECAUSE I was being subjective while I said he needs to be objective. AND I said "He needs to be objective WHEN he wants to say someone's WRONG"
I DIDN'T say "We always need to be objective", so I haven't said anything contradictory to myself at this point in time.

Geez... What a baby.
And one more thing. Would you please stop blasting this thread with any more of your stupid comments? Thank you.
0513名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 6724-UWiS)
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2018/08/13(月) 18:41:18.76ID:MuvHtxPJ0
You are continuously showing your limitations in reading again and again.
You must have gotten lowest scores even in Japanese test.

A normal person won't to be upset by commercials.
No one resonates with your comments, thus you are the one to be shown the door. Piss off.
0516名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 078d-Qb5F)
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2018/08/13(月) 20:21:21.41ID:JIzfj4u+0
>>507
To get an idea, look up the movie 君の名は。 and see how well it has been received. That's the kind of anime movies non-otaku people watch these days.
And I'm not "defending" those things. I just think those are not something that is worth making a fuss about even if you don't like anime.

My point is that what you said in the last couple sentences in >>490 is logically incorrect, as otakus are not the ones responsible for the flyers/ads.
I don't care if you hate anime or not.
0517名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ dbc1-IeV5)
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2018/08/14(火) 00:03:47.56ID:FkDI4vOj0
>>516
Alright, I got it. It's not otaku's faults that these ads are now everywhere.

Let me clarify again. I'm not hating on their stuff, I just don't like having those stuff around where it's not supposed to be.

Of course they receive positive reactions from the audience because the audience went through the trouble going to movie theaters, payed some money and watched it,
Plus, movies usually get high ratings unless it horribly messes up in visual or screenplay.
This is especially the case for the ones like animation, because animation are primarily for minor audience (kids won't notice a little mess-up, do they?).

And they don't bother me at all, because they've been kept to the right places all the way through.
But once it's outside of their field and makes their way into other areas like ads/stations/shops/restaurants etc. Don't you find it a bit too much?
Because whether you like it or not, anime in the styles like the movie that you just mentioned aren't fully accepted by general population; particularly from senior generation.
I also don't like to have people from other countries pointing their fingers at us and say "Hey, it's the country of anime!!"
0520名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 078d-Qb5F)
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2018/08/14(火) 22:38:16.00ID:dbYnt54G0
>>517
By "look up", I meant you should get information about the movie.
That movie is the fourth highest grossing film of all time in Japan, first being Sen to Chihiro (Ghibli), second Titanic, and third Frozen (Disney).
If people felt so uncomfortable about that anime style like you do, they wouldn't have gone to see it in the first place.
And I don't see why all ads should be senior-friendly at all times, especially companies like Nissin, McDonald's, and Benesse of all things.
How much is too much depends on the person.
0526名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cac1-IeV5)
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2018/08/15(水) 03:03:46.97ID:CFnVklxv0
>>520
Why it needs to be senior-friendly? Because companies owe a certain level of responsibility to the society. It's called "corporate compliance". They always need to be considerate about how consumers feel of their activities.
Companies should immediately cease their own activities based on public opinions, even if what they are doing were reasonable and working very well for them.
Haven't you ever heard of the news that some commercials were dropped? Or they had to, because people hated it so badly that the requests were made by people with a petition.

I had no idea that movie was so popular that it made a huge hit, I can totally understand the other three though.
That alone doesn't really account for how well these anime are actually accepted by people. It might be? But maybe it was just the movie was exceptionally good.

But seriously, can you honestly say you won't feel uncomfortable/embarrassed even a bit with these anime ads being there all around you?
To make it easier for you to understand the point I'm trying to make here, I'll give you an example.
Let's suppose that you liked these anime, can you then proudly say it aloud that you like watching them to people around you, just as saying your hobbies are listening to music or playing sports?
If you can't, isn't that because you're embarrassed about it too? Think realistically here, because you do sound like you're saying all these stuff so you don't have to concede to other's opinions.
0528名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 1f90-i4Z8)
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2018/08/15(水) 09:52:22.91ID:ZrFvKxu50
What do you guys think about the tokyo medical university scandal?

Many international newspapers have been talking about this topic in the past few days. Like no joke, i keep seeing articles about it everywhere.
0537名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 078d-Qb5F)
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2018/08/15(水) 23:57:29.78ID:+TgYTMY60
>>526
If those ads are so unpopular among the public and get a lot of complaints, they will be dropped, like >>503 said. I never claimed anything contrary.

Not being senior-friendly doesn't necessarily mean being harmful to seniors. If it does mean that, it was just my poor English.
I just don't believe your premise that seniors are actually irritated by those commercials like you are.

And no, I don't feel uncomfortable with those ads at all, at least with those 3 commercials.
Like I said, I don't care if you hate anime or not. That's a matter of personal preference. If you hate it, you can hate it. That's not my business.
0538名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cbbc-QxOT)
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2018/08/16(木) 07:07:11.57ID:lstVHsoH0
too hot, is there any cool something?
0540名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW eb74-74Mo)
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2018/08/16(木) 09:38:35.21ID:oeRNn6KP0
>>532
>>535
You mean that people are making up fake stories in order to distract from the main issue? That's very typical.
In my country the government does that very often. Every time there's a real scandal they come up with a fake scandal that's even bigger and more outrageous, but obviously fake. So the discussion strives away from the real issue to pointless fights.
However, right now the media all around the world is discussing the many ways in which japanese society discriminates against women.
I was wondering what do you think of this. Are you guys happy that this issue is finally being brough up? Or are you embarrassed or angry that japanese society is being criticized by people around the world?
0541名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 0bbd-QF/U)
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2018/08/16(木) 10:05:25.88ID:/Rux0MMn0
I don't care a bit how the world sees Japan.
But I'm pretty uncomfortable with being pointed at and branded "an oprrssor" when never in my life have I done anything discriminatory against women.
I do admit that I've been mean to some women sometimes but that's not because they're women.
I just don't like some people regardless of their sex.
0542American (ワッチョイ 9f91-QxOT)
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2018/08/16(木) 10:21:09.10ID:KzNzNBDq0
>>541
I see
so you are trying to say you like men
乁(✿ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)و
0544名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5b8d-hE18)
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2018/08/16(木) 23:36:55.36ID:6LA/4sJT0
>>540
I don't know much about the university scandal, but if some filthy sickos got caught and exposed, then that's a good thing.

As for the foreign media calling our country an oppressive shithole, that's what they do everytime there is some scandal of that kind.
They did the same thing when some shitty male politician heckled some shitty female politician by yelling something about giving birth to children.
A bunch of western journalists gathered together and commented how awful it was.
If I remember correctly, some journalist from Europe (I think she was Bulgarian) was like this:

"Such a backward country... In this day and age, something like this would never happen in my country."

And I sometimes think I'm glad I wasn't born in the West because of things like this.
0545名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5b8d-hE18)
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2018/08/16(木) 23:58:43.06ID:6LA/4sJT0
By the way, if you search this thread, "イモ MM" posters seem to be either GOD or the site-advertising shill.
And since it's not GOD, ベーイモ MM56-d8l1 could be the shill.
His writing style seems to be different, but the shill has a record of attacking Koreans, so you should at least suspect him.
Either way, ベーイモ MM56-d8l1 is a troll of some sort.
0546名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ベーイモ MM7f-IJAn)
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2018/08/17(金) 00:40:02.02ID:JSPbkEctM
>>544
I think it's correct that Japan is a backward country.
Look at our country, how high the number of elderly people, the debt we hold.
I'm disappointed with this country. Japan cannot anything without the US.
Even more, that was one of aim for the West that Japan became weaker.
0556名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アークセーT Sx8f-3KdP)
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2018/08/18(土) 02:59:45.58ID:5vKkQExcx
I heard that zainichi koreans are burakumin. Is that true even today?
0557名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cbbc-QxOT)
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2018/08/18(土) 03:17:09.88ID:pqFBt+HC0
Goodness is important, but it will be troubled if everyone becomes a good person. Violence is a necessary evil.
If so, stupidity and idiots would be necessary evil.
Even in the United States, a stupid president is chosen once in decades, but I think that is also necessary evil.
0558名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ベーイモ MM7f-SP8M)
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2018/08/18(土) 05:00:00.37ID:OeuEa/DSM
>>555
The right politicians are nowhere to be seen in current Japan.
In my opinion,we’d better to live oneself without depending on politics. Stupid media too.
Also, I believe Trump is better than democrats like Hilary, Obama and Bush actually. But Japan follows democrats.
0559名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cbbc-QxOT)
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2018/08/18(土) 06:01:57.98ID:pqFBt+HC0
A high IQ idiot is awkward. Idiots should be IQ lower.
0563名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cbbc-QxOT)
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2018/08/18(土) 13:37:39.39ID:pqFBt+HC0
Politics should be entertainment. People are longing for interesting politics.
Serious politics is boring and there is nothing good.
0565名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 9f25-Ho3Z)
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2018/08/18(土) 17:29:59.13ID:FIgIWJIr0
Interpreting jokes is the most difficult.
When I ask Google assistant "make me laugh", their response is always incognizable for me. For example,
"How do you make a tissue dance?
Put a little boogie in it".
It just makes me confuse rather than laugh.
0567名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 9f24-Ho3Z)
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2018/08/18(土) 19:26:11.35ID:2InxeQ3V0
How do you define the highly educated?
Most private schools have unique entrance exam systems so the fact that you went to privileged schools does not necessarily mean you made a high academic achievement or well prepared for the society.
0568名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 0bde-Mt3K)
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2018/08/19(日) 09:50:34.30ID:Cja6MRE80
It's mostly idiots who have babies. Japan's birth rate is low because Japanese are smart. You should have to pass an IQ test to have a baby. If you fail, your baby gets burnt alive.
0570名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ cbbc-QxOT)
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2018/08/19(日) 10:57:41.50ID:UTjs74WK0
It has become cooler and easier to spend. Fall is the best for studying.
0579名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 0bde-Mt3K)
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2018/08/20(月) 12:40:17.31ID:O165rcXy0
Suddenly, I feel really depressed.
0585名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 9f24-Ho3Z)
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2018/08/21(火) 20:02:00.68ID:XbUsdrlJ0
It's so hot. It's unbearable. It's not fair.
36 degrees, 37 degrees, 38 degrees, temperatures is increasing day by day.
Maybe we underestimated the effect of global warming and now we are paying the price for it.

I'm very concerned about the Olympic Games. Are you really going to hold it in August 2020? We'd better put off it to October.
0588名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW abbd-7AF/)
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2018/08/22(水) 02:37:43.03ID:ur6g1HCl0
北海道→north sea road
青森→blue forest
秋田→autumn ricefield
岩手→rock hand
山形→mountain form
宮城→shrine castle
福島→happiness island
新潟→new tideland
富山→rich mountain
石川→stone river
福井→happiness from a well
長野→long field
岐阜→crossroads hill
山梨→mountain pear
静岡→quiet hill
愛知→love know
栃木→horse chestnut
群馬→group horses
茨城→thorn castle
埼玉→the tip of mountain of treasure
0589名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW abbd-7AF/)
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2018/08/22(水) 02:38:58.27ID:ur6g1HCl0
東京→east capital
千葉→thousand leaf
神奈川→god tang pear river
滋賀→grow thick celebration
三重→triple
京都→capital capital (or capital city)
奈良→tang pear good
和歌山→peace song mountain
大阪→big slope
兵庫→soldier warehouse
鳥取→bird take
島根→island roots
岡山→hill mountain
広島→wide island
山口→mountain gate
香川→Incense river (or perfume river)
徳島→ virtue island
愛媛→ love princess
高知→high intelligence
福岡→happiness hill
大分→big separate
佐賀→assistance celebration
熊本→bear book
長崎→long cape
宮崎→castle cape
鹿児島→deer children island
沖縄→open sea rope
0593名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5b8d-hE18)
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2018/08/22(水) 23:40:07.68ID:j0Zj7eq40
>>558
There are some good politicians working hard to fight the failed-for-two-decades establishment and fix the country.
There are also some good non-henchman economists and commentators, especially on the less controlled media like the radio, local TV stations, and internet.
If you insist on ignoring them, then you are in no position to be disappointed with the country as you are part of the problem you are whining about.
0595名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 3dde-pKrl)
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2018/08/23(木) 13:23:30.51ID:+6vjL3tb0
I went to the doctor yesterday. The doctor was fat. Only in America.
0597名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2581-YOiG)
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2018/08/23(木) 21:33:31.39ID:Ey2aRgUi0
>>581
What is ″happy″ we can eat?
You wanna say that you get feel better if eat a lot of foods.
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