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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 213

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0001名無しさん@英語勉強中 (JPWW 0H5e-mX7i)
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Hey!!! All you NEETs, nerds, YouTube link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboo from around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys, Touhou pirates, and
that electrical super-gay who suffers from mental disease - This is your thread!
Let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!

We all wish for permanent world peace!

Sistersite:https://chat-in-english.memo.wiki/


前スレ Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 212
https://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1558023612/
0107名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa7f-HuMN)
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2019/09/13(金) 09:54:34.70ID:0pugULjca
some people like to pursue the latest, up to date version of electronic devices.
when iphone x models were launched a few years ago,
they emailed me the pictures of them (or sent messages with pics through line app).
i wonder how many people will do the same thing with iphone 11 in 2020.
0108外人 (ワッチョイ 9f3b-+dKN)
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2019/09/13(金) 10:13:23.87ID:fY77JixR0
>>107
Yup. People are pretty absorbed by their expensive toys.
I did get a flagship phone (LG V30) but I only upgrade every 3 or 4 years.
0110名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd9f-oiQV)
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2019/09/13(金) 13:10:41.53ID:C/f6mt/td
I still use the flip phone. That is *garakee in Japanese. But It was tiresome to check out the correct word to me. So I wrote *galapagos portable phone to soneone in the youtube comment section. I don't know he understood me.
0114名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 9f9d-Ivwm)
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2019/09/13(金) 22:46:49.82ID:1iZZ9DqI0
I was in Brisbane for a year and it was such a nice experience. People were so chill and I loved the climate there.

The only thing I hated about Australia is that I couldn’t use water as much as I can. I use tons of water here in Japan.
0116外人 (ワッチョイWW ff3d-CmmK)
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2019/09/14(土) 01:38:27.17ID:ZQQSXiIC0
>>113
Being Bilingual is pretty nice. I have German TV streaming so I sometimes watch german dubbed cartoons and programming. They even have dubbed anime.
Watched a couple early episodes of Bleach but the dub was a bit unbareable. When it comes to Anime I usually watch subbed content 9 times out of 10.

French pronounciation isn't much of an issue for English speakers, but the written form is absolutely horrendous.
Coupled with Japanese's limited phonetics and grammar, I can only imagine the nightmare Japanese people have when learning French.
I've heard that Spanish is easier for Japanese people to learn. Is that true?
0117外人 (ワッチョイWW ff3d-CmmK)
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2019/09/14(土) 01:40:36.41ID:ZQQSXiIC0
>>115
...why is that though?
If he was just looking for a rice bunny to pump and dump then I could understand.
Blocking him right when he started messaging you kinda defeats the purpose of dating apps altogether.
0118名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 9f9d-Ivwm)
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2019/09/14(土) 02:02:30.29ID:yB+5jXK00
>>116
Yes. Spanish is so much easier for Japanese when it comes to pronunciation. Gramatically speaking, Korean is the easiest language for Japanese, but no interest.

I wish I could speak Mandarin. But no time, no motivation, no money to learn the language from scratch.
0119名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd1f-oiQV)
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2019/09/14(土) 02:27:36.30ID:2lq20enGd
The pronunciation of R and LER are difficult in French. But French is easier to listen than English.

Spanish and Germany sound similar to Japanese.
0120名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd1f-oiQV)
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2019/09/14(土) 02:43:45.02ID:ysQs7+Svd
>>115
Did you block because he was hentai?

>>118
Youtubers give you free lessons.
0122名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa7f-HuMN)
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2019/09/14(土) 13:13:43.37ID:glU6GK7Wa
i am going to have a job interview the day after the respect-for-senior-citizens day.
so i need to prepare for it.
as per the job description, this position requires a basic level of english-speaking skill.
i am wondering if the part of the interview is done in english to evaluate how i can speak english...?
0123外人 (ワッチョイWW 9f3b-CmmK)
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2019/09/14(土) 14:45:09.92ID:NR2GZFgm0
>>122
It might.
As long as your pronounciation isn't total shit and you can get your message across, that should meet the definition of basic English in Japan imo.
Good luck with the interview, hope it goes well.
If you really wanna practice, maybe look for some pronounciation practice videos on YouTube or something similar. Rosetta stone maybe?
0124名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワントンキン MMa3-gxlg)
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2019/09/14(土) 17:15:53.85ID:UHXeyXmMM
>>122
Don’t think serious too much. The important thing is the passion to telling to the interviewer how you feel and consider about a certain topic. Just fake it till you make it!
0128外人 (ワッチョイWW 9f3b-CmmK)
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2019/09/15(日) 00:11:59.56ID:EAjNybd/0
>>127
Not trying to sound mean, but what hardships?
You're in a first-world country that is one of the powerhouse economies.
Just trying to understand your perspective.
0129名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 9f9d-Ivwm)
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2019/09/15(日) 00:31:53.79ID:bbMzF30i0
>>128
If you are white and speak English, you are basically invincible.

Japan is not a wealthy country anymore. People are struggling a lot. Everything is getting expensive, taxes are getting higher, incomes are getting lower etc etc

I’m pretty sure Japan is a second-world country.
0131名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd1f-oiQV)
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2019/09/15(日) 00:50:16.43ID:Rv6pz0K3d
Price is lower than before. But salary is also lower than before. Wealthy gaps is bigger in Japan.
0134名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd9f-oiQV)
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2019/09/15(日) 13:53:51.64ID:QVwEt+aUd
>>133
Sales tax increase because government actually want to get increase politician's salary not for lack of pension money.

But our income is the same. So we have to save or not buy anything we don't really need. Then company can't get money from us. Then our salary don't get increase. So Japanese economy will never be better.

If I want to get out of rat race, I have to not waist my money at least. I don't count on our government. I will save my life by myself.
0136名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd9f-oiQV)
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2019/09/15(日) 19:55:17.01ID:Su1w/aRed
Someone said you can make money by fx. But my image of fx is dangerous. But he said if you bet little money, It's not dangerous. I'm wondering I'll do or not.
0137名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 7fa7-+Efg)
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2019/09/15(日) 20:41:00.53ID:jLTDjB0a0
in the case of fx, there is no floor of the loss you have to compensate when you lose
the bet. if it is the kind of trade of future of for example wheat, as long as it’s trade is done through japanese companies all you have to lose is the money you put in advance before you begin the bet. but, in fx, the circumstance differs from it.
and, for trades, large leverage is used, so, so small amount of the price changes may bring you huge amount of losses. i recommend you not to bother with the fox.
0140名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 9f9d-Ivwm)
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2019/09/16(月) 21:48:27.44ID:a3ar9v3+0
Recently I realised that the number of foreign workers in my city is increasing. Everytime I go to a dollar store, イオン, 業務スーパー, or some specific stores, I encounter tons of gaijins like Filipinos, Brazillians, etc etc

I’m not complaining because they are good, legit hard workers unlike white gaijins.
0141外人 (ワッチョイWW ff3d-CmmK)
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2019/09/17(火) 00:13:12.42ID:uBNZXMs40
>>140
Eh, some people are going to be like that.
The same can be said of some japanese people.

Work ethic isn't always predetermined by race.
But here in North America and other english speaking countries, teaching English in Japan is marketed as something that anyone with a bachelors degree can do.
I've even considered it myself.
0142名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd1f-oiQV)
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2019/09/17(火) 00:35:51.05ID:sVr12AMId
>>141
How about teaching English on Youtube until you come to Japan?
0145外人 (ワッチョイWW ff3d-CmmK)
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2019/09/17(火) 05:53:33.91ID:vKLw6wTZ0
>>144
State universities aren't all that bad. Coming from one doesn't mean you're as dumb as a rock.
Sometimes you can't really afford the creme dela creme in terms of university.
0147名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd1f-oiQV)
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2019/09/17(火) 08:10:09.41ID:hLAcM9mCd
How many years did you guys take to be able to speak English?
0148外人 (ワッチョイ 9f3b-+dKN)
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2019/09/17(火) 09:43:21.99ID:PkccnzMx0
>>147
Yikes.
Now that I think about it, having just the Japanese vowels and consonants in your repertoire of sounds would make speaking English a nightmare.
How long did it take for you to be able to speak English? Is how you speak close to how a native speaker would talk?
0149名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd9f-oiQV)
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2019/09/17(火) 13:11:18.44ID:NkbYgbQEd
>>148
It took 10years. I practiced pronunciation little by little. I learned phrases from the magazine for American teenage girls.
0152外人 (ワッチョイWW ff3d-CmmK)
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2019/09/18(水) 06:40:23.51ID:XxCl1JCm0
>>150
It depends on the school, program, etc.
I pay $5000 CAD a year for 2 semesters' tuition for my program. This is for a 2 year diploma program where it counts as two years towards a bachelors degree.
As a foreign student, your tuition is increased to subsedise Canadians with their lower tuition.

State universities and other institutions will have different costs.
Some universities might give you financial assistance depending on socioeconomic status though.

The situation is similar in Canada compared to the US, but there are a multitude of differences between the two to take into consideration.
0153名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd9f-oiQV)
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2019/09/18(水) 15:16:15.33ID:uVW1N57Gd
>>137
Do you invest on something or own your company?
0154名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 1f49-Z/xC)
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2019/09/18(水) 15:47:50.12ID:T+zn46d/0
This gaijin tends to think Japanese is easy to pronounce due to its limited phonetics. This is clearly a wrong assumption because the most difficult part of pronouncing Japanese is intonation.
I have never met any non-native speakers who have no trouble speaking it correctly no matter how many years they live in Japan.
It seems almost impossible to master it without having native parents.
0155外人 (ワッチョイWW 9f3b-CmmK)
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2019/09/18(水) 16:15:13.76ID:GoR8hbgh0
>>154
Obviously intonation would be a difficult part of Japanese. It's hard for any language.
But the limited phonetics make it somewhat easy for non-japanese people to learn the language, at least from my perspective.

If someone immerses themselves in the media of a given language, the intonation would be easy to pick up over time.
0161名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 9f9d-Ivwm)
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2019/09/18(水) 22:18:55.87ID:ABHbv4C/0
Recently I realised this. The English ability is so useless here in Japan. It is such a waste of time, money, efforts.
Schools should do away with English classes. Or English should be selective or something. Def not a mandatory subject!!!!!!!!!!!!
0163外人 (ワッチョイWW c63d-zB6M)
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2019/09/19(木) 02:33:05.69ID:1K/o3S7l0
>>161
Basic English skills are needed for programming, large corporations with foreign HQs, shitposting on 5chan's english board, etc.
If you don't use it on a semi-daily basis, great. I'm happy for you. But English skills are king in Japan for major corporations, and just in general.

>>162
...well? Are you?
I just can't tell. It's nice that whatever I put into the namefield is displayed here.
On quite a few boards on 4chan, you need a browser extention to just see whatever someone puts into the namefield if they don't tripfag.
0164名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd82-E2fJ)
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2019/09/19(木) 03:12:14.84ID:57sMiAB3d
>>163
They live in Japan. You can read old thread if you have time. This thread is number 213.
0165名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 42a7-hU10)
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2019/09/19(木) 09:17:40.44ID:CHuyrbcr0
>>163
Though you are writing major companies in this country requires employees to
acquire English skills, employees almost don't need it for their business, but only for their promotion where their company impose it as a condition to be promoted,
to get good scores in TOEIC. Worthless efforts is it, don't you think so?
0169名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スプッッ Sd82-E2fJ)
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2019/09/19(木) 21:31:56.59ID:p0XfZg6Td
Does L and R sound obviously different to native English speaker or returnee? It's the same to me unless you pronounce very slowly.
0174名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワンミングク MM52-0+aC)
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2019/09/20(金) 17:58:25.42ID:1bq4Hl8JM
>>169
I’ve never been to Americas but I clearly recognize L and R sound.
0175名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/20(金) 18:25:56.72ID:I/M8zy6Md
>>174
Great.
0181外人 (CAWW 0Hf5-zB6M)
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2019/09/20(金) 22:44:49.80ID:d1dKBDWNH
>>169
L and R don't even sound that similar to me. The way I think it, L(el) and R(arr) have slightly different tounge forms for making the sound.
L makes my tounge curl slightly to the tip of the roof of my mouth with the tip of my tounge.
R on the other hand has my tongue curl to the back of my mouth with the underside of my tounge touching the middle roof of my mouth.
Don't know if that makes any sense, but the sound difference is there.
0184名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/20(金) 23:31:43.15ID:iA+xt2n+d
>>181
I can pronounce them. But listening is difficult. By the way I heard native speaker children don't know difference between TH and F sound. Is that true?
0185名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 0249-Kts1)
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2019/09/20(金) 23:32:23.37ID:+9vbCSJP0
road
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Those two words are written by voice typing. I know how to pronounce it because of a good teacher called Summer on YouTube.
It's relatively easy to pronounce them compared to the difficulties hearing the differences between them.
Once I saw a article on BBC that says when you are a baby you can distinguish all sounds but when you grow up you will lose the ability because it is no longer necessary to discern them in your native language.
0187名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/20(金) 23:53:19.25ID:/QE/JUE8d
>>185
That's right. I lost that ability because I'm already adult.
0189名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/21(土) 00:15:39.12ID:0okv2c4Dd
When someone pronounce は(H sound). She looks hard. Because she is French.
0192名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa0a-plfC)
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2019/09/21(土) 01:00:43.54ID:dtePiExGa
long time ago a japanese student seemed to be shot to death in the us
after unintentionally?? trespassing someone's garden or backyard.
the owner shouted at him "freeze!" but he was said to take it as "please!" and go further against the owner's will.
i am not sure if this story was true or not.
0194外人 (CAWW 0Hf5-zB6M)
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2019/09/21(土) 05:53:44.89ID:M3tdiC51H
>>192
From what I can gather, お is the correct pronounciation for を. In romaji, it's typed out as "wo".
Don't know how you got うお, but than again I'm just an idiot 外人.
0198名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/21(土) 18:25:29.09ID:LjqJry3Vd
I read old thread. There were a lot of foreigners. They had gone. Where are they?
0201名無しさん@英語勉強中 (スフッ Sd22-E2fJ)
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2019/09/21(土) 20:59:09.76ID:8wLhVdlId
>>197
Which actor does he look like?
0202名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 9da9-hhgi)
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2019/09/21(土) 21:06:05.89ID:HWCI8c4V0
Japらではダメ!
0205名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa0a-plfC)
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2019/09/22(日) 19:38:40.84ID:m0RRJQl0a
today, when i travelled by train, my eyes caught a highschool girl standing alone by a door.
what made me so surprised is how skinny her legs were.
they looked like two old branches of a tree.
i wondered how they hold her body as she got off and walked away swiftly.
i wanted to tell her to eat a lot more at least until she comes of age.
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