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US HIPHOP 総合

レス数が1000を超えています。これ以上書き込みはできません。
0005訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/02(土) 20:42:22.86ID:MBH1VK5G0
90年代おじさんも来ないでくれ
0007訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/02(土) 22:20:27.12ID:f0fN07FMa
クレシンおる?
0010訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/02(土) 22:48:32.37ID:RJk6GayW0
r.i.p xxx tentacion
0011訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/02(土) 23:01:39.53ID:2tqaxJWb0
>>9
90年代多目になるけど多めに見てくれ
>>10
そういやまだ聴いてなかったわ
今日の肴にするか
0014訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/02(土) 23:16:49.29ID:eX2O2PWTM
ゲトーゴスペル
チェインジズ
ディアママ
ライフゴーゾン
0015訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 00:18:13.69ID:kfNvPkX10
>>14
良いね
俺は
me ageinst the world
only god can judge me
哀愁があるから好きなんだわ
0018訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 01:46:42.34ID:kfNvPkX10
>>16
久し振りに聴いたけどやっぱ最高だな

余談だがわし昨日JRAP聴いてたけどJもオールドスクールの方がかっこいいと思ったね
0027訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 11:56:44.30ID:kfNvPkX100303
>>24
これは昔聴いてたな
まあ誰しも聴いてたと思うけど
渋いけど2000年代特有の欲が強い 
>>26
○○ ○○ ○○
このフロウ聴き飽きた
それとフックの部分のこの女の合いの手が下手すぎる
女ってのもあるけどラップにグルーヴを感じない
TRAPでは無いものに乗せるとたちまちメッキが剥がれるんだよ
0030訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 12:21:54.79ID:X/ftIg9iM0303
次からUS HIPHOP新譜スレにしよう

90年代語りたかったら別スレでお願いします。
0031訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 12:29:11.27ID:q7QGVlT600303
最近は洋楽聴く若者が減っているって言われてるし過疎るんじゃないか?
2000年代は洋楽ブームだったけど(^ω^)
0032訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 12:34:52.12ID:X/ftIg9iM0303
新譜US HIPHOPスレ

90年代のHIPHOPを語るスレ

trap HIPHOPスレ

この3つに分ければ揉めることも無い
0033訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 12:40:12.83ID:kfNvPkX100303
>>28
この頃はまだラップ下手なんだよな
何故かこの辺りから急激にレベルが上がる
まあEAZYは声が良い
>>29
俺はわかんねぇな
渋さが足らん
0034訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 12:43:29.74ID:kfNvPkX100303
>>30
そんなことしたらこの板の勢いでは過疎る
お互い曲をぶつけ合ってdisりながらやっていくのもhiphop精神だと思うんだけどな  
>>32
2つに分けることも意味不明なのに3つとか見当違い
君は君で好きな曲貼ったり語ればいいだろ
90年代の曲disってもいいし
0036訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 16:19:37.69ID:PWhIZ4JSM0303
俺も分けたら良いと思う
情報交換、討論(バトル?)、目的別に
0037訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 18:22:53.79ID:r3PuYMpj00303
90年代のは今の音楽にマウントするくらいしかやることねーだろ
今更語ることねーよ
ただ隔離する意味で話した方がいい
0039訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 18:47:48.26ID:41/SGoVV00303
ヒップホップに限らず1990年以降に生まれたガキは世界中で馬鹿やらかす
建設的ではなく破滅的
ただ皆が皆そうじゃないからなぁ
まぁテカシとエクステンタシオン、リルシャン、リルウージー等々ヘタレが多い
で、最近のガキはこういう事言うとオッサンwしか言わない
だからもうシカトでいいよ互いに
でもお前らガキが言うヒップホップはUSでもヒップホップ扱いされてないのは事実
0040訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 18:55:37.47ID:ZsEfMOU7a0303
10代のガキです!2PACはhiphop!
0041訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 19:16:05.26ID:rNqgjJub00303
この老害は意味不明な長文垂れ流して結局なにが言いたいの?

オッサン?老害だよ老害間違えるなよ
0042訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 19:37:50.57ID:41/SGoVV00303
>>41
意味分かってるからそうやって憎まれ口叩くんでしょ?でもそれだけなんだよなぁ、憎まれ口叩くだけ
悔しいだろ?
お前の一度しかない若いうちってのがつまらねぇ時代で
つまらねぇお前の世代の代表がつまらねぇアーティストばっかでヒップホップだと世界で認めてもらえないんだもんな

まぁ二度と来ないからDTMだスマホでラップしなよ
0044訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 19:50:23.59ID:1Mclexb900303
90年代おじさんのほうがこの曲はダメだとか言ってなかった?
ニュースクールはオールドスクールを踏まえた上で、新しいものを探して曲作ってんのになぁ
0046訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 19:58:54.39ID:kfNvPkX100303
90年代おじさんは今や複数人いるんだが
俺は初代
まあー俺としてはtrap好きな奴も昔の奴もごちゃごちゃしながら共存した方が面白いと思うけどね 
俺も新しい曲聴きたいし
それをdisらない約束は出来んがなw
0047訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 20:02:50.69ID:kfNvPkX100303
まああの荒らしまだいるから、スレがどうとか議論する余地も無くなるがな
あいつの精神病の症状の波で俺達は書き込めたり書き込めなかったりする
だからスレ分けるとかそういうレベルにない
0048訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 20:09:13.51ID:rNqgjJub00303
>>42
ジジイが悔しいだろ?だってキモ笑
何言いたいのか全くわからない知能レベルの低い老害みたいだけど
とりあえず古くせー楽曲を残りの少ない人生で死ぬまで漁ってろよ老害
0053訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:15:23.17ID:xz5ouyVK0
HIPHOPは和訳見ると幻滅する
訳し方糞なだけだと自分に言い聞かせて聴いてきた
和訳のクソさは言葉遊びが訳にうまく組み込めてないだけなんだよな?
ネイティブじゃないから細かいことまでわからないんだよな
0055訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:27:14.36ID:q5MPzVdlM
自分はリアクション動画で解説してくれてるの見て理解してるけど、和訳見ても意味わからんでしょ
0056訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:29:22.32ID:cEiaZAJt0
歌詞わかんねーのにHIPHOP聴いてるやつなんていんの?何が楽しいの?
0058訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:33:30.28ID:wTt2o8vNp
英語と日本語のヒップホップは聴くけどそれ以外の言語のヒップホップは聴かない
なぜなら意味わからなくてつまんないから
0060訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:39:28.26ID:kfNvPkX10
フロウと音を主に音楽として楽しんでるよ
リリックとかは逆に年取ったら何にも影響受けないから気にならない
あまりリリックを重視していると聴けるものの幅が狭くなるよ
若者によくある傾向だが
0061訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:46:57.02ID:xz5ouyVK0
>>56
聴いてる俺ですらそう思うわ
まあトラックの雰囲気と
サンプリングの使い方と
トラックとラップの呼応
を楽しむくらいかな
理論も分からんのにジャズ聴いてるやつみたいなもんだろうな
いやそれよりひどいかもしれん
0062訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 22:50:52.05ID:xz5ouyVK0
>>60
年齢は関係ないだろ
若い奴らだって歌詞気にしないタイプ沢山いるでしょ
0063訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:05:06.42ID:iLIavOYTp
言ってることださいラップなんか聴きたくないじゃん
日本語ラップでださいやつも言ってることがださい
0064訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:16:35.79ID:kfNvPkX10
例えばイキリ系のリリックがかっこいいと思う人もいるし、文学的なリリックがかっこいいと思う人もいる  
そして俺みたいにどっちもガキ臭いなと思う人もいる
USはリリックがわからないからこそ聴きやすいという面もある
敬愛するsnoopdoggやwarrneGも下らないことばっか言ってるんだろう
けど俺は意味がわからないから純粋に音楽成分だけ抽出して聴けてるわけ
0065訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:20:16.63ID:QpnduWhQ0
俺も音で聴いてる。フロウも楽器みたいな感じで。
リリックがおもしろいのもあればbeatとテーマが合ってないのもあったりするから
むしろ意味がわからない方が良かったり。
とりあえず音から
0066訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:25:21.00ID:xz5ouyVK0
>>63
日本語はそのあたり瞬時にわかるから選別しやすいよね
そういうこともあって日本語ラップは本当に一部しか聴かないなー
>>64
仲良くなった外国人の前で歌詞も分からんような音楽聴ける?
恥ずかしくて無理じゃないか?
0067訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:26:59.16ID:QpnduWhQ0
リリック重視でUSラップ掘ってく日本人の方が少ないのでは
0068訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:37:55.56ID:kfNvPkX10
>>66
まず外国人と仲良くなる人生設計では無いが、向こうの奴らも何かしらHiphopに触れる機会はあるから理解はあるだろ
そもそも俺は俺が良いと思ったものを聴くわけだからこの点においては人の目ファックユーな訳
>>67
昔の東海岸好きとかはリリック重視だと思う
宇多丸とかケーダブはそんな感じ
0069訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:38:30.21ID:cEiaZAJt0
掘ってくではなく、掘れないが正しいだろうな
ラップの歴史知ってれば、歌詞分かんないのにラップ語っちゃう時点でそうとう笑えるんだがw
0070訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:43:43.62ID:xz5ouyVK0
>>68
引かれてもいい、頭空っぽだと思われてもいい
バカにされてもいいスタンスで生きているならたしかに気にならないね
人目気にしてコソコソ聴いてるやつよりはマシだと思う
0071訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:47:50.53ID:QpnduWhQ0
>>68 まぁ歌詞によって盛り下がりそうな曲なら わざわざ一緒に聴かないw 俺は好きな曲聴くけどね 

>>69
リリックから好きになって曲好きになるパターン少ないから効率悪い
ラップの歴史は大切だけどそれよりも俺は音楽が好きだ
0072訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/03(日) 23:59:11.53ID:kfNvPkX10
>>69
USのhiphopが全世界で聴かれてるのはリリックで伝わってるわけじゃなくて音楽としてのモノが良いからだよ
俺は直感的に聴いてて気持ちの良い物を聴いてるだけ
音やトラックとしての観点から語るのは問題無いわ
0073訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/04(月) 00:07:16.79ID:eKwax//60
え?じゃあおまえらフリースタイルとかまったく理解できないのにラップ分かった気になってんの?
0076訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/04(月) 01:14:45.67ID:JXt6EpVmp
フリースタイルときいてバトルを連想するガチキッズいてる?
0081訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/04(月) 04:40:49.61ID:eKwax//60
最近のは顔にタトゥーいれてればラッパーだと思ってるスキル無し
俺がカリフォルニアでGに入ってた頃は、顔にいれまくるのはms13くらいだったぞ
0086訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 00:09:22.79ID:mM/Z3LrI0
顔にタトゥーって南の奴らだけだろ
ニワカかよ
0090訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 07:51:13.80ID:tyCQ5vrHa
クレシンおる?
0095訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 11:22:39.53ID:tmGAOlab0
>>93
fat joeは嫌いではないけど当時クラブでよくかかっててニワカ共がいちゃいちゃしてて何かむかつくって思い出補正がある
Dreのネクストエピソードやミッシーエリオットなんかもウザかったわ
Dre好きだけどな
あの曲だけ嫌い
0096訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 11:24:40.82ID:tmGAOlab0
後ショーンポールやアウトキャストもよくかかっててうざかった
曲がうざいんじゃなくてあの頃の光景が一緒に思い出されるからうざかった
0101訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 12:10:55.81ID:Ue4l4wOu0
>>98
90年代はハーコー路線、00世代は大衆路線て事を知って欲しかった(^ω^)
その後Hip Hop Is Deadな
0102訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 12:23:42.61ID:Ue4l4wOu0
あーあ昔はミーハーでも知ってる感じだったのに
何故今の洋ヒップホップはオタクしか知らねえ感じになってしまったのやら(^ω^)
0103訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/05(火) 13:52:05.64ID:8G/a2S2W0
ぶっちゃけバロホのリバトークは新譜教えてくれるからめちゃめちゃありがたかった
追いつかねーよ次々新しいのでてきて
0112訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 01:46:53.54ID:ph7S64sH0
>>97
フックの所の乗せ方上手いと思う
ただ今聞くとそんなに大したことない早口
>>103
あいつらはUSしっかり聴いてるのもあるけどやり方が露骨だよな
>>104
人殺しだったのか
まー人殺し確定だとしても曲は良いから聞くけど
>>106
昔アルバム買ったことが黒歴史になるかな
0113訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 01:48:10.17ID:ph7S64sH0
何か近年は音が良くなったらしいけどどう良いんだ?
メロディやリズムの複雑さでは無くて音質が上がったという認識でいいか?
0114訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 09:13:41.83ID:WfxvPRfup
全体的に音質が上がってるしビートが複雑なものも増えた。

聴いてわからないなら何も考えずに聴けばいい
0115訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 09:28:23.58ID:9AFZNEO70
ドレイクやポストマローンが売れてるのって歌ってラップができるから?ただそれだけ?
0120訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 12:31:24.39ID:4P55Xrlp0
>>112
第1級謀殺みたいだよ
同じYNWの名前がつく仲間2人を殺っちゃったみたい(もうひとりの捕まったやつが撃ったらしい)だけど本人は否認。
カニエとの曲でも二重人格っぽい、銃に興奮するみたいにインタビューしてたし、容疑の前のリリースだけど仲間を殺した曲も出てるしいろいろヤブァい
0122訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 13:47:21.34ID:GhCxPAYiM
>>85
カニエのバースのずらして遅らせて揺らぎ作ってるから上手い
90年代おじさんもクラシック認定します 
0123訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 14:58:11.71ID:Q1OlEv3b0
因みに2018年に殺されたUSラッパーは20人以上やで。XXXTENTACION、Mubu Krump、ZackTV、CantGetRightなど。
ほとんどが射殺だよ、日本のヒップホップシーンがいかに平和か分かるだろう。
0125訴える名無しさん。
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0129訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 15:21:25.73
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0131訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 15:27:42.51ID:dG50P0oE0
ラップの歴史もしらねーから
日本がどうとか言うんだろ
そもそも比較対照にすらならねーよ馬鹿
0132訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 15:31:49.34ID:Q1OlEv3b0
>>131
ならラップの歴史語ってみ
比較対象?お前日本語ラップ嫌いなのは分かるが、比較される部分もあるだろ
USと日本のシーン全てが比較対象にならないとか短絡的で頭悪すぎだわww
0136訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 15:46:48.17
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0139訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 16:15:40.42
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0140訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 17:14:03.14ID:i3DRdMtL0
アメリカでもポスマロをヒップホップだと思ってる人のってあんまいないっていうし
0142訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 17:40:04.79
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0145訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 17:49:13.61
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0148119
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2019/03/06(水) 22:14:24.42ID:7fVOdl8Ga
>>124
恩に着る
0149訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 22:15:04.26
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0151訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 23:18:28.29
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0153訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/06(水) 23:45:15.72ID:d0lUsw3Z0
>>113
俺はかまたくだけど
昔はSP1200のフィルターを通してわざと音質を落としていた
今はそういったものを使わなくなったから、そういう意味では音質は当時に比べて上がってる

ただ月額配信が主になったので、そういった意味では音質は下がってる

わかってくれるかな?
0158訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/07(木) 01:04:26.53
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0163訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/07(木) 09:51:05.99
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0166訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/07(木) 11:03:22.67
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0168訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/07(木) 13:43:49.01
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0169訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 12:38:27.76ID:xMaL9sYdM
20代前半のやつらは話題性だけのしょうもないのしかおらん
0170訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 12:41:01.44ID:XFlgBdDdp
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0171訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 12:42:07.12ID:dhzksZGTa
最近のはCDださないイメージ
0172訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 12:56:14.69ID:A6RSJoJAp
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0173訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 14:20:40.90ID:O0kQIQ2x0
10年代前半に出てきたラッパーは豊作、10年代後半に出てきたラッパーは不作(セールスはともかく)
とはいえJ.I.Dあたりは期待してる
0174訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 14:21:05.71ID:3ee0JARIp
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0176訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 15:59:37.38ID:3ee0JARIp
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0179訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/08(金) 23:30:35.37ID:V78tgl9fp
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0180訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 00:01:45.85ID:DvLAPvAl0
>>178
消されるってか話題性しかないから消えるだろうけど
0181訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 00:02:25.84ID:J4gduC0Kp
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0183訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 00:29:39.63ID:EAlYmkUfp
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0184訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 02:17:20.12ID:DvLAPvAl0
>>182
あっそ、どっちにしろ消えるのに殺されるわけないやろ
0185訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 02:18:53.69ID:hIbC4LGep
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0187訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 02:41:18.51ID:nYEsU4SUp
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0189訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 03:32:51.15ID:nYEsU4SUp
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0192訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 07:30:31.18ID:nYEsU4SUp
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0194訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 08:19:37.13ID:DvLAPvAl0
ゴシップにキャッキャできる感性は羨ましい
0196訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 08:48:41.64ID:wyw2HQh3p
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0198訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 09:55:12.71ID:TxgQE3RNp
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0200訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 11:07:44.99ID:yq1dMYdpp
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0201訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 11:25:00.26ID:BaCXGI9oa
XXXtentacionとかDrakeに殺された説でてるけど
Drakeって捕まらないのか?
0202訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 11:25:23.21ID:HN3Sj2avp
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0204訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 12:35:06.81ID:wAMD0t6wp
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0206訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 14:43:50.63ID:YEsDIKqPp
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0209訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 15:24:31.55ID:iwshJv5vp
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0210訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 15:40:19.38ID:yF3oqplJ0
ドレイクがKMTでテンタシオンのフローをパクッたのでテンタシオンがドレイクを痛烈にディス
その後ドレイクが出したI’m Upsetの歌詞でテンタシオンを殺害予告
0211訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 16:05:42.82ID:txAAnD+Xp
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0214訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 17:49:12.87ID:O51mdx0sp
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0216訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 18:59:18.99ID:D0CX8S7Qp
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0219訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 21:07:34.21ID:zdctw59ip
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0221訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 21:43:28.86ID:AyMOnmO9p
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0222訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 22:39:57.63ID:yF3oqplJ0
本当にUSヒップホップが好きなヤツら
どの辺が好きか好きに語ってくれよ
ヒップホップはUSから来たんだろ?
盛り上がらないなんておかしいな
0223訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 22:49:20.18ID:QvEUhpnZ0
スミフンとビッグパンとナズとモブディープがめちゃくちゃ好きです

入りは2pacでした
0224訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 22:52:40.47ID:YgZxAsHOp
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0225訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 22:58:15.51ID:yF3oqplJ0
2 Pacが生前最後に残した曲はマキャベリ名義でのKilluminatiだ
これはヒップホップファンへのメッセージを越えて全人類へのメッセージだ
0226訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 23:06:54.62ID:1uXheUt+p
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0228訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/09(土) 23:50:21.94ID:18IEAk+Fp
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0230訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 00:32:46.71ID:CUSmT5YD0
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0231訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 00:47:21.46ID:Nypqj4kX0
入りはDMX
アクション映画がガキの頃好きで
よく見ていたらジェット・リー主演のブラックダイヤモンドに出演していて
映画の最中に曲が流れてかっけえ!ってなってそこから聴くようになった。

エミネム うーたん 2パック

兄貴にGEOのカード借りて聴きまくってたぜ?
0235訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 07:50:34.44ID:rowMLi2Np
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0237訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 08:11:29.20ID:tW7iS3+gp
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0239訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 14:05:38.89ID:1Mi8Rb+3p
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0241訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 14:36:05.07ID:dpp1r378p
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0243訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/10(日) 23:55:15.94ID:CUSmT5YD0
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0245訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 00:04:49.57ID:m7xmYqcW0
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0247訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 01:01:17.40ID:m7xmYqcW0
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0248訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 08:43:27.29ID:zGpx4zsU0
90年代とかの話になるけど今のこの板の出てくる話題が2pacばかりで正直言うと失笑してしまってる
今ではレジェンド級の扱いだが2Pacは死ぬことで担ぎ上げられた感が強くてね

まあいいんだけど
G-FUNK出すんなら出すでもっとあるだろ?wって感じ
0250訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 09:52:19.08ID:aDG7KvYUp
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0254訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 16:12:18.00ID:m7xmYqcW0
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0257訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 21:16:16.12ID:VOYIoJTop
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0259訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/11(月) 22:32:05.89ID:VOYIoJTop
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0261訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/12(火) 15:42:09.39ID:P6z+75GFp
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0264訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/12(火) 22:55:48.62ID:R81pU+A9p
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0265訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 19:08:41.60ID:3KxXrCqa0
リルポンプが全てを変えたな、天才
0268訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 19:31:57.42ID:fyfpqD3Lp
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0269訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 20:17:21.28ID:6spxeknK0
>>265
ポンプはアジア人ディスってバカにしてるのに本当にこういうヤツはリリックもちゃんと聞いてないんだろうな笑えるよ
0270訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 21:03:48.87ID:HZEgqANNp
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0271訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 22:05:52.61ID:Woljy6taa
リンポンプの1stってgucci gang含めてsmokepurppがフロー考えてたらしいけどな
0272訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 22:23:04.69ID:7N/F+6Hxp
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0273訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/13(水) 22:35:19.08ID:sfV0A+bU0
ちなみにリルポンプはそれを否定せず逆ギレしてた
0275訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 00:01:18.01ID:ziU7Wwxxp
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0277訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 00:53:20.96ID:8FQXZG++0
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0279訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 01:33:18.83ID:8FQXZG++0
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0280訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 01:33:34.49ID:FNGeb77Xp
パンプでもポンプでもどっちでもいい
ジェイジィーとジェイズィーみたいなもんで
まぁカタカナ表記することじたいおかしいんです
0282訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 09:45:09.86ID:lXdCZDjja
ゼブラ〜マンおる?
0283訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 09:56:50.08ID:TiF8GA9rp
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0285訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 17:03:21.56ID:g/ULT8yZpPi
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0287訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/14(木) 21:14:31.14ID:8FQXZG++0Pi
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0289訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 00:56:01.00ID:IhIQHvUg0
251 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/03/11(月) 15:09:42.10 ID:7J6xj/v80
2pacばかにするとかにわかすぎだろ


デジタルアンダーグラウンドで1番の真面目くんが何だって???
0290訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 00:56:56.42ID:IhIQHvUg0
もう一度言っとこか

90年代とかの話になるけど今のこの板の出てくる話題が2pacばかりで正直言うと失笑してしまってる
今ではレジェンド級の扱いだが2Pacは死ぬことで担ぎ上げられた感が強くてね

まあいいんだけど
G-FUNK出すんなら出すでもっとあるだろ?wって感じ
0291訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 01:01:12.03ID:US5qhBwD0
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0293訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 09:53:54.66ID:CyXwvCOjp
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0295訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 11:55:16.02ID:WDV6rQpSp
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0297訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/15(金) 13:11:31.27ID:0J/4mp/4p
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0299訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/16(土) 15:59:48.03ID:ofrt/kaq0
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0300訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/16(土) 21:02:48.99ID:uSqNgta70
デジタルアンダーグラウンド内で1番の真面目君が何だって?
0301訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/16(土) 21:20:03.25ID:ofrt/kaq0
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0303訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 02:39:27.72ID:DTv0L/rV0
>>298
わかんねーみたいだから耳かっぽじってよーく聞けよ

90年代とかの話になるけど今のこの板の出てくる話題が2pacばかりで正直言うと失笑してしまってる
今ではレジェンド級の扱いだが2Pacは死ぬことで担ぎ上げられた感が強くてね

まあいいんだけど
G-FUNK出すんなら出すでもっとあるだろ?wって感じ
0307訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 07:27:14.25ID:yOOWkmZ+0
2pacはスキルフルだよ
韻を音だけではなく、意味でも踏むからね。

例 blind→sign→nine
訳 盲目→標識→ナインミリミーター銃
意味 目が見えない→標識を読めない→不良になる

一見シンプルな歌詞に見えても、実は奥深いしスキルが高いことが分かる。
そこらのギャングスタラッパーにはないセンス。
もう一つの例

old→cold→soul
訳 歳をとる→冷たくなる→魂となる
意味 言わずもがなでしょ?

こういうトンチが効いた韻を踏みまくって言いたいことを上手く伝えれるラッパーはいないぞ。

しかし俺は特に好きなわけではないがねw
0308訴える名無しさん。
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0310訴える名無しさん。
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0311訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 13:58:47.66ID:mb9r1AQxd
今チカーノラップのスレ無いんだな
誰か聴いてる人いる?
0312訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 14:40:41.91ID:ZE6v3M/Ia
いないよ
0313訴える名無しさん。
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0314訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 19:06:28.11ID:mb9r1AQxd
>>312
10年前とすっかり板の雰囲気も変わったな
0315訴える名無しさん。
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0316訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 21:46:52.98ID:mb9r1AQxd
ヒプホプ板住人は皆どこ行ったの?
0318訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/17(日) 23:17:33.95ID:9+Cfi9Fhp
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0319訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 21:40:31.11ID:a5ty01v/0
>>307
ナインというのは9mm
いわゆるUZIのことだな
Coldは冷たいもの、おクスリのことだね

お前はちゃんと聴いてる
お前はいい




で、他の馬鹿ども
デジタルアンダーグラウンド内で1番の真面目くんが何だって??
0322訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 21:58:51.92ID:28dQM8Dv0
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0323訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 22:24:18.91ID:P+huqw4V0
ヒップホップはとっくに死んでるよ

2006年にNASが発表した『Hip Hop Is Dead』の一節より

『どいつもこいつも皆同じサウンドだ、ヒップホップを金儲けにしやがって』

今のヒップホップはゾンビなんだよ気づかないヤツは一生気づかないだろうな
0325訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 22:58:29.10ID:a5ty01v/0
>>324
感想は「ふーん。」
まぁなんだろうな、元がヒットチューンだから良い曲になるのは当たり前である意味ずるい
同じようなことを97年にNYでやったらプロップスを得ているビートナッツでさえも叩かれた


その程度なら当然こっちを聴く(ネタ)
https://youtu.be/ASiqxSwHpQ8
0327訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 23:32:10.16ID:9exkHKIFp
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0328訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/18(月) 23:55:04.28ID:p8lI8g6A0
>>325
chico&coolwadaのペタペタした特異なラップスキルが魅力なんだよ
何もわかっちゃねぇ
0329訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 00:03:58.65ID:736BC9u90
>>325
とはいえお前その早さで元ネタ持ってくるのは感心した
これなんだサンプリングの域こえてね?
認識としてはパクリでいいのかな
お前やるじゃん
軍門に下るわ
0331訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 05:06:24.17ID:Lt0Jj8Wop
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0332訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 06:50:30.76ID:Nnri99SCa
USのリリック掘り下げてくとほんと深いよな
それに比べて日本語ラップの陳腐さよ
https://youtu.be/dRisHotaLNg
これでリリシストとか言っちゃうんだからな
0333訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 07:52:04.56ID:vQQEq2zN0
>>332
詩の前にビートがダサい
致命的だよ

誰のプロダクションか知らんし調べるつもりもないが
こういうことするなら、
この人はギターで路上で弾き語るか暗闇で詩の朗読でもしてた方が良いと思うな
0337訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 12:18:22.97ID:vQQEq2zN0
>>336
今やHIPHOPは世界の隅々まで浸透しジャンルとして売上もロックを抜いたと話題になった
どこの民族がHIPHOPしようが猿真似もクソもない
0339訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 12:47:48.42ID:+FArith1p
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0341訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 12:49:29.66ID:rAy2CK1ep
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0344訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 15:41:23.04ID:KAIEcdVmp
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0347訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 17:15:02.99ID:/ynIStzi0
日本語だけ聴く奴
USだけ聴く奴
全部信用ならねぇ

モット言えばお前らはトラックとリリックに偏りすぎてる
ラップってのはフロウがまず第一なんだよ
じゃなきゃ別の音楽でも良いわけだ
0350訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 17:33:32.52ID:EfhSS44u0
日本語ラップならFEBBに一番可能性を感じた
https://youtu.be/i1SGy2MbyOw
0354訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 18:26:46.44ID:/ynIStzi0
>>353
まだわかりにくいわ
歌謡曲とかクソだけどある程度わかりやすいものじゃないと入ってこない

このスレも価値が出てきたな
多分5〜6人で回してるんだろうけど拘り持ってて喧嘩するけど全員にrespectするわ
その内アフィられる
俺らの会話は面白いし貼り付けたものも面白い
全員自信持っていいよ
0356訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 18:43:16.31ID:4GeENtG/p
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0358訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 22:39:40.93ID:cCMxyzmGp
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0361訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 23:01:19.75ID:6h7ipsab0
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0364訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/19(火) 23:41:38.30ID:vQQEq2zN0
P https://youtu.be/VUIl92zgRqA

Q https://youtu.be/i_Te1GV2Zs8

90年代とかの話になるけど今のこの板の出てくる話題が2pacばかりで正直言うと失笑してしまってる
今ではレジェンド級の扱いだが2Pacは死ぬことで担ぎ上げられた感が強くてね

まあいいんだけど
G-FUNK出すんなら出すでもっとあるだろ?wって感じ
0366訴える名無しさん。
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0367訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 00:51:28.19ID:HeNTuH340
俺が荒らしなわけがねーだろ
思考までもアホ板に馴染んだか?
0368訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 01:02:11.12ID:HeNTuH340
で、2PACの良さやG-FUNKの良さを動画付きで語ることが出来る奴は他に出てこないの?
俺の否定が精一杯かな?

じゃ、俺が西海岸貼っちゃおーっと
https://youtu.be/FiEvFPm-VOA
0370訴える名無しさん。
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0373訴える名無しさん。
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0374訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 01:36:38.13ID:HeNTuH340
>>373
雑魚なりに定期的に嫌がらせで隙間に入れてくるねおたく
残念ながらあぼーんの文字しか見えないけど
0375訴える名無しさん。
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0377訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 06:08:43.53ID:GdFbGmyH0
新潟のジブ信デバッガーおじさんから

ただのあぼーんおじさんになっちゃったw
0379訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 09:32:15.18ID:VXkk4dpp0
>>363
デジタルアンダーグラウンドの内で一番の真面目君が好きなんだけど
お前知識あるしセンスも俺が意味わからんレベルで掘ってるのにやっぱキチガイやんけ
0380訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 09:35:03.72ID:VXkk4dpp0
後な曲はこんなに大量に貼るんじゃないよ
お前とお前の好きな曲の価値が薄まるだけ
一回ずつ貼れ
0381訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 11:45:57.31ID:hmnqEJ+s0
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0382訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 12:36:24.16ID:HeNTuH340
>>379
何パックだっけ?1パック?あー2パックか
実はな俺は93年くらいの初期のものは好きだよ
何つうのかな、NYぽさや香りというかやっぱりNY生まれだなーみたいな感じ
その後thug thug言い出して(根は真面目なのに)イメージ先行のG-Funk一辺倒になったきて個人的にはキッついなーって
マキャベリとか訳分からん名義使いだしてさ

まぁ1枚も持ってねえけどこの頃ものは好きだよ
https://youtu.be/YqJAnQTwmJs
0383訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 12:52:51.29ID:HeNTuH340
>>380
大量って言っても俺の中の氷山の一角すらならない氷山の欠片
まぁ動画観た聴いたやつの中でカッコイイと思って調べたりするやつが1人でもいて欲しいし
俺はかなり歳食ったが若い時と違ってきて最近は培った知識を広めたくなってきた
0384訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 12:56:03.27ID:Tlvkj82Nd
もっと広めてくれ
一生かかっても掘りきれないからな
いいやつを知りたい
0385訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 13:00:02.31ID:p4PbV2jd0
Hip hopってさ現役のラッパーがやってる事が正しいんだぜ(^ω^)
俺らリスナーがあれこれ言っても無駄ただの老害リスナーになるだけ

ラッパーなのに歌ったりバンド組んだりCMソング作ってもそれはHip hopな

今のヒップホップをディスるのではなく自分の好きな音楽を語れ
0386訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 13:11:48.17ID:VXkk4dpp0
多分このジジイはリアルタイムで90年代聴いてた世代
俺なんか後追い90年代だから勝てるわけねーよ
このジジイは若い頃はイケてたんだろうけど薬か精神で変なことになってる奴だとプロファイルしてみる
まあdisってはないよ
ただお前の貼る曲はすげーわかりずらいの
USHIPHOPと聞いてスレ開いて曲聴いてみるとピンとこねーんだよな
0389訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 14:24:49.54ID:rq6NLa/Mp
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0390訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 16:37:23.50ID:YCuShxlza
https://youtu.be/cxRDmhL2XY4
これすげー好きなんだけど、このスレ的な評価はどうなの?
0391訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 17:52:03.42ID:HeNTuH340
>>387
すまん、俺にはわからんわ
すまん

>>390
jedi mind tricksじゃねーかよw
すっげー懐かしい名前だ
そいつ超キャリア長げえよ

その曲は全く俺の好みではないが、jedi mind tricksの時点でワックなわけがないしちゃんとしてるんだろうな
0392訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 18:01:29.26ID:oo1ihiX/p
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0393訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 18:10:37.23ID:U7I7IyaD0
全部古臭くて聞こうとも思えんわ
90年代スレ立ててそちらでやればいい
0394訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 18:11:32.10ID:HeNTuH340
>>386
確かに俺は91年からリアルタイムで聴き
そして掘って掘って掘りまくってた世代で若い頃は極めて極めて極めまくったつもりだったが
つい最近になって調べるうちに知る曲もある
だから俺も、そういう意味では後追いの部分もあるよ
0396訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 18:40:33.99ID:VXkk4dpp0
>>393
全部ごちゃごちゃ混ぜて語るんだよ
JRAPもな
ここの奴の聴くJRAPも興味ある
>>394
まともに話せるじゃないか
同じことをコピペしてたからキチガイかと思った
0397訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 18:45:01.95ID:hmnqEJ+s0
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0398訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:02:40.09ID:P4VGBWJ/0
日本語ラップだけどコレとかよかったよ
https://youtu.be/iXqAyDdFIKY
DAYS / BES & ISSUGI / pro GRADIS NICE & SCRATCH NICE
0399訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:29:31.15ID:HeNTuH340
>>396
2010年代、ジャンル付けや世代の壁は完全に外れたと思ってる
俺は20年前に既に取払っているがね
そこからが本当の意味でのHIPHOPだと思ってる

壁を作り別けること自体がナンセンス
ただ、壁は無いにしても個人的に受け付ける受け付けないはやっぱりあるしそれは認める
0400訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:30:52.13ID:arb+uRLIp
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0401訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:38:02.53ID:HeNTuH340
あと、2010年代は人種の壁も外れた
どの音楽ジャンルでも邦楽のレベルはマジで世界で勝負できるまで上がっていると感じる
昔はレベル的に洋楽を聴く必要があった
が、今は洋楽を聴く必要性はなくなっているよ

だからこのスレ的に言えば、あえてUSHIPHOPだけを聴く必要はなくなっている
0402訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:41:24.54ID:YBjVFx0Zp
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0403訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 20:43:53.00ID:HeNTuH340
>>402
残念ながらお前の手動の労力も虚しく、俺の画面ではあぼーんとだけ簡潔に表示されている
0404訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 21:26:06.88ID:hmnqEJ+s0
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0406訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/20(水) 21:45:20.21ID:hmnqEJ+s0
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0407訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 02:49:40.95ID:kJt3lIKj0
>>401
は?日本語がそもそもラップに向いてないのに何言ってんの?
そんだけ聴いてその程度の認識かよwww
0408訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 02:53:29.77ID:B9jE+seop
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0409訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 03:05:26.85ID:+HkHKaCz0
>>407
何が言いたい?
向いている向いていないの話をするの?
韻の踏みやすさで言うと向いてはいない

HIPHOPに限った話題ではなくて邦楽の楽曲のレベルの話をしている
それに日本人がやる音楽で日本語である必要もない
0410訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 03:46:44.20ID:kJt3lIKj0
しょーもな
レベル低いの分かったから講釈たれんほうがいいよ君
0411訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 03:51:34.14ID:+HkHKaCz0
>>410
はーい
おkおk講釈たれないよ
お前が来なければいいんじゃね?
呼んだっけ?俺

で、お前は一体何の話がしたいの?独り言?
0412訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 04:21:24.76ID:+HkHKaCz0
そもそもだと?

向いていない理由を一切言わない雑魚が何だって?



向いていない以前に

そもそもさ(笑)

当時のブロンクス在住の黒人やプエルトリカンの使用言語の英語以外の言語は考慮されてない
特に日本語は英語とは文法がまるで違うし英語はアルファベット26字、
日本語は48字、さらに平仮名、片仮名、漢字
英語なら〜tion、〜ly、〜ry、〜er等の語尾で簡単に踏みまくれるが
あ、講釈垂れないんだったわ
0413訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 04:33:33.89ID:Oe00XEhc0
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0416訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 12:35:25.16ID:qV7V7DUsp
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0417訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 13:56:11.23ID:EyHJb2JN0
>>401
こういう2010年代からって戯言抜かしてる幼稚で浅い子供がいるのも仕方ないんだよ
もうその頃には業界はヒップホップを過度な商業的方向と大衆洗脳に使うようにほぼ全てのプロデューサーやラッパーはコントロールされているのに…

君はもっと掘り下げて勉強しない限りある年代でUSヒップホップはピタリと止まって全く動かずにフリーズしている事に気づかないだろうな
0418訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:21:57.74ID:l4O1zeeCp
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0419訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:22:02.70ID:tHroWoq1a
クーリピナッツはクラシック
0420訴える名無しさん。
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0421訴える名無しさん。
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0422訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:23:58.77ID:nUXUurOHp
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0423訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:24:06.26ID:Gvjm1FzBp
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0424訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:24:14.51ID:IgbALHnfp
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0425訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:24:39.09ID:VjLA9msHp
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0426訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:25:04.81ID:RgU/ecUWp
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0427訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:25:13.43ID:RXDDP+klp
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0428訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:25:21.06ID:uvHdXVlMp
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0429訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 15:25:29.15ID:tAiEOkifp
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0431訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 21:11:13.95ID:Oe00XEhc0
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0432訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 21:17:40.19ID:+HkHKaCz0
何言ってんの
その頃もなにもビギーが死んだ97年からパフダディーが死を商売したり商業的に進んだじゃねーかよ
死者を出した東西戦争で金になるはずの業界のイメージが地に落ちた為にpopな方向にシフトしたろ
2010年代からではなく97年から始まってんのよ
そこんとこわかる?

hot97等のラジオ局もブッシュ政権の圧力でダーティーなHIPHOPは徹底的にオンエアされなくなっていったろ
この頃から完全にコントロールされている
0433訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 21:22:34.52ID:+HkHKaCz0
俺はジャンルで壁を作って仕切ってしまうことはナンセンスと言ってるだけなのに
何故コントロールがどうとかの話に勝手に脳内変換されてしまうんだろう

>>417って日本語を読解できない低脳なんだろうけどさ
0434訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/21(木) 21:44:49.01ID:Oe00XEhc0
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0435訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 15:17:02.06ID:Qz1Q/6Rta
myとか rhythmとかの母音が入ってない場合って"y"は子音なの?それとも母音なの?
詳しい人教えて
0436訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 16:50:59.29ID:yVjH5yis0
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0438訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 18:46:08.15ID:Xwd0HPq+p
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0442訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 19:32:07.35ID:yVjH5yis0
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0444訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 22:34:43.10ID:rrTrkZVp0
>>443
メインストリームしかわからん
一人もわからんわ
本国のhiphop好きよりも聴き込んでるだろ
0445訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 22:36:44.87ID:yVjH5yis0
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0447訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 22:46:11.75ID:rrTrkZVp0
>>446
メインストリームとイメージするのはdreやsnoopらだぞ
その他にも細々知ってるけどお前が貼ってる奴らは一人も知らない
西海岸一つとってもメインストリーム周辺だけでもかなりの人数がいる
そこでもうお腹いっぱいになるわ
それでも現代では俺はdigってる方だと思ってたけど
0448訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 23:04:51.57ID:pBLWJOoY0
>>446 ファーサイドって西だったんですね。
西のやつもっと教えて king of diggin
0449訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/22(金) 23:40:25.17ID:yVjH5yis0
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0456訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 01:18:30.87ID:P5WQhhke0
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0458訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 02:08:03.24ID:EEpnFUpsp
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0459訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 08:20:49.83ID:/a/094f70
>>447
ドレやスヌープって要するにG-FUNK屋さんっしょ
君の中で西海岸=G-FUNKっていう固定観念みたいな
俺が貼り付けたものは、やってる音楽がG-FUNKではないだけで割とメインストリームなものだよ

ちなみに>>450-452>>454は俺が貼り付けんじゃない。別の人
0462訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 11:14:55.19ID:0zFuWbDqa
90年代おじさんじゃなくてトラップお兄さんも教えてよ
0464訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 12:15:55.49ID:/a/094f70
>>461
そうか飽きたかw
つうか飽きが早すぎるなw
まあそんなもんだろ
イケてるて自分で貼り付けて言ってりゃ世話ねーわな
0465訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 12:22:15.35ID:/a/094f70
別に俺は90年代おじさんでもなんでもないよ
古いのをあえて貼ってるだけで2019年おじさんだよ

例えばDR.ドレのクロニックのような教典になるようなオリジナルな作品、
その後のシーンに影響を及ぼすような作品ってのがあるがそういう元のところから追わないと駄目だと思うんだよ
順当な流れで追ってかないと理解は難しい
0466訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 12:27:13.44ID:P5WQhhke0
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0467訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 12:35:12.04ID:/a/094f70
もっと言えば映画ストレイトアウタコンプトンも記憶に新しいN.W.Aだが
クロニック以前のN.W.Aのサウンドやアイスキューブのサウンドから順に聴いてみると
いかにドレのクロニックが当時衝撃で、そこから枝分かれしていったか解るだろうな
NYで生まれたヒップホップの猿真似を辞めた瞬間である
0468訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 13:09:25.55ID:P5WQhhke0
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0469訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 13:43:35.67ID:+gfS2j5J0
古くてダサいのしか貼られてないけどマウント取られたくないからわざわざマイナーなの持ってきて自尊心守ろうとしてるのウケるわ
0470訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 14:06:56.49ID:N0Tf2c0G0
少なくとも2010年以降の貼れよ
昔のHIPHOPはオシャレ要素なくてダサすぎる
0471訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 14:29:24.38ID:JmUe48r2p
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0472訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 15:08:35.60ID:fDxKDLLh0
>>457
俺はメインストリーム好きだしカッコイイと思ってる
>>459
俺の中では西海岸はG'FUNk以外は存在しないことになってた
俺浅いから
それでも今それに対して知識ある奴居ないから俺は掘ってる方だと思う
あんたは知りすぎてる
このスレでの神だ
俺にはわかりにくくて取っ付きにくいけどな
0473訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 15:11:58.99ID:fDxKDLLh0
大体hiphop聴く奴が少ないし
聴いてても日本語だしその中でも割と有名なのだけとかになる
US聴いてる奴はほとんどいないんじゃないかな
ましてや時代遡って聴いてる奴はもうほとんどいないわけ
0474訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 16:27:41.14ID:P5WQhhke0
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0475訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 16:52:02.77ID:vfxQXamPa
クレシンおる?
0476訴える名無しさん。
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0477訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 17:45:42.92ID:/a/094f70
>>469
だからマイナーじゃないと何度言えば…
基本だよ基本
>>470
最初の方、貼ってるが理解できないだろ

世界的にここ数年ブーンバップブーンバップ言って90'sのリバイバルが来てるっちゅうに
ダサいだの何だの言ってる奴は何なんだよw

俺がズレてるように言ってるが、そいつが世の流れ、シーンの流れからはズレてるからな
そこんとこいいかね?
0478訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 17:57:07.67ID:/a/094f70
>>473
俺は知識が浅かろうがマウント取る気もないし最初に言ったけど広めたいと思ってるから
若い時は自分で付けた知識を人には教えたくなかったし、これがHIPHOP(俺が1番の精神)っていうのもあるけどさ
まぁ俺はかなり歳くって考えも変わってきたね

叩くヤツが出てきてるが強がってるとかじゃなく正直言って俺とは試合にならないと思ってる

俺は邦楽のレベルが上がったから洋楽を聴く必要性は一昔ほどはない感じてると書いたが
世界でも遜色ない、またはそれ以上のクオリティーが今の邦楽にはある
まぁそういう理由だよ
0480訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 18:18:24.79ID:/a/094f70
では、最近の話をしましょうか?


近年、ドレイクが他ジャンルに影響を与えまくってる
ドレイク曰く、俺はHIPHOPアーティストではない。
だそうだ。

ドレイクのアルバムにpassionfruitという曲があるんだが
世界中のアーティストがこの曲をカバーするのが密かに流行っているんだ
それはプロから火がついて今や素人までカバーしてる

数曲貼るが興味があれば調べてみるといいよ

ちなみにこれが原曲
https://youtu.be/COz9lDCFHjw


https://youtu.be/xHzB8KAuEr8

https://youtu.be/xqocviCDm8Y

他にも以外なアーティストもカバーしてたりするし
この曲に影響を受けてアンサーのように作った曲がわんさかある
0481訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 18:46:06.14ID:9x9sWSvs0
最近の若いやつでブーンバップスタイルのカッケーやつらいる?
プロエラ以外で
0482訴える名無しさん。
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0485訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 20:43:01.90ID:P5WQhhke0
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0487訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 21:03:24.32ID:FExGEC9l0
改めて聴くとブンバップっていいね
0488訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 21:42:37.23ID:/a/094f70
まぁ良いと思えば調べて聴けばいいよ

俺ん時は自分で調べて、歩いてディグるしかなかったけど今はYoutubeがあるから指だけでガンガン聴ける
AppleやgoogleやSpotify等の月額配信も少しづつだがクラブミュージックなんかも充実してきたからね
俺はアナログとCD合わせると7000枚以上は所持してるけどほとんど今はSpotifyでしか音楽は聴いていない
てなわけで5000万曲を普段から持ち歩いているが、困ったことに有難味や思い入りが失せて全く新譜を覚えられない
配信にはCDみたいにジャケットがないからだろうか

俺は2000年以降HIPHOPはほとんど買ってもないし聴いていない
今はUKのJAZZが熱い
0489訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/23(土) 22:47:46.29ID:5HkYasTVp
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0490訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 09:48:32.69ID:Fm0lyhkR0
>>488
>俺は2000年以降HIPHOPはほとんど買ってもないし聴いていない

都合のいい事だけ取り上げて知ったかぶって能書きたれてるし最初からわかってるわw
お前はパーソライズされたYoutubeみて勘違いしてんのにそろそろ気付よ
0492訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 10:24:53.63ID:XpP5WM0D0
>>490
まぁ何かわからないが悔しいんだろうけど、100歩譲って俺がYoutubeオナニー野郎だとして
それをお前が今ここで悔し紛れにドヤ風で暴いたとしても

で、何なの?
で、何が言いたいの?

って感じなんだが
何かあるの?
0493訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 10:29:32.47ID:XpP5WM0D0
お前も好きに貼れよ
その貼り付けた楽曲をダセエと思っても個人の自由だし別に否定はしないよ
俺はね

ましてや貼り付けた人そのものに対しての攻撃なぞしない
0495訴える名無しさん。
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0498訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 15:09:05.25ID:CPt8wXZm0
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0500訴える名無しさん。
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0502訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 18:51:19.15ID:CPt8wXZm0
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0503訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 19:42:48.84ID:XpP5WM0D0
>>501
なら玄人の意見を私ニワカとしましては聞きたいので宜しくご口授お願い致します!!
まさかしゃしゃり出じゃないですよね??
0504訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 19:48:20.83ID:RajpD1+Q0
wiz khalifa
post malone
聴いてるとイラッとする
hiphopはこんなんじゃねぇって
軟弱なPOPSやないか
0505訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 19:48:43.87ID:XpP5WM0D0
ここは自分の意見も言わず姑息にディスってくるヘタレ以下のヘルマダファカが単発で入れてくるので楽しいれす(=^^=)

HIPHOPから何を学んでるのでしょうか?
KRSONEのお腹痛い時の下痢ウンコでもトロトロのスープにして飲んで下さいね
それとも世代の問題ですかね俗に言うゆとりなんでしょうか?
0506訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 20:14:58.89ID:CPt8wXZm0
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0508訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 21:46:46.55ID:NzsXSKlXp
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0510訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 22:23:11.65ID:0jTsoO1H0
21savageのalotみたいなビートが好きなんだけど、似たようなやつでいい曲無い?
0512訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 22:51:20.36ID:e/zS1qslp
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0513訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 23:24:41.11ID:XpP5WM0D0
>>507
マークカヴュマ?って確か年末くらいにデビューアルバム切ったという記事をどこかで見たわ
アルバム聴いてみるわ

俺の中ではジョーアーモンジョーンズが頭1個抜けてる
https://youtu.be/-7givQ1hvWs
0514訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 23:32:34.93ID:XpP5WM0D0
>>509
俺はお前の都合では黙らないが、それでも俺に黙って欲しけりゃ自力で黙らせろよ
単なる煽りたいだけなのは見え見えだし何よりも中途半端すぎて煽りとも呼べないくらいの低次元の煽りだけどな

の、以前に
お前がこのスレを覗かなければお前が俺に抱いているそのつまらない感情を抱かないで済むだろうに
0515訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/24(日) 23:50:32.54ID:Ob9ZDcyga
>>513
イイね!
Hiphop板的にはこういうのがいいのかね?

shiki no uta (nujabes cover) / The Brotet
https://youtu.be/2oTQqAyu3BY
0518訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 00:21:28.95ID:FX24dNeZ0
>>509
2PACを弄られたのが余程悔しかったのかよ
お前、左手で涙を拭いて右手で精子を拭け
0519訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 01:15:22.16ID:vo58WP5T0
>>516
commonいいですよね〜
0520訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 03:26:19.00ID:6bwR5PL70
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0522訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 04:01:23.58ID:6ugKwazop
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0523訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 12:16:01.72ID:FX24dNeZ0
今までのやりとりでここのスレの中で俺以外でフライングロータス聴いてる奴がいるとは到底思えんが
本当に聴いてるのか?
0524訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 14:12:21.82ID:t1V9gjaUp
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0525訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 21:22:11.33ID:gRy4Lpvo0
逆おれみたいにインディーズのリル ジェシー聴いてるやついないだろうな
0526訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 22:02:44.32ID:FX24dNeZ0
>>525
ちゃうねん
>>512がフライングロータスを貼ってるけど本当にフライングロータスを聴いとるんか?って意味やねん
0527訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 22:18:40.82ID:FX24dNeZ0
>>507
アルバム聴いたわ
古き良き時代を継承してるな
しっかりしていて最近っぽくないというかUKJAZZっぽくないサウンドだ
0528訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/25(月) 22:51:10.81ID:jBe16lBDp
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0529訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 00:55:25.60ID:iTI0bZ5t0
俺は90年代のメインストリームの皆が微妙に知らないであろう曲貼ってたけど、スレが先鋭化されて貼りにくくなったんだが
なぁ?HIPHOPはそんなに高尚だったのか?
0530訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 01:01:06.33ID:BpJ+tg/5p
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0531訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 07:47:30.57ID:mBCSuwoQ0
>>529
進化するか、居残るか、または突然変異を起こすかの3択の連続で細分化してるだけ
例えば80年代の金チェーン首からジャラジャラの強面の時代から
ネイティブタン(ジャングルブラザーズ等)が出てきてそれを受け入れることが出来ずに早くも残った奴がいる
君はどのタイプか分からないけど、多分これまで知ろうともしてなかったのでは?
良い悪いは別としてね。それで良いし否定はしないよ


HIPHOPも色んなジャンルに影響を与えてるし逆に影響を受け吸収している
今2010年代に起こっていることは色んな音楽ジャンルでごっちゃ混ぜの音楽が形成されているということ
俺がこのスレでジャンルの壁はないと言った理由の一つがこれだよ
0533訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 11:51:56.49ID:WvMu0NXP0
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0535訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 12:38:26.40ID:WvMu0NXP0
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0536訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 15:15:47.19ID:1eN7RhYi0
ヒップホップジュエリーなら、KRKC&COまで!
ヒップホップ業界で最大の品揃えを誇っています。
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https://jp.krkcom.com/
0539訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 17:55:26.68ID:mBCSuwoQ0
>>538
なんだよそれSoundCloud上でしか発表してねえじゃねーの素人かそいつ
音はかっこいい
0540訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 17:59:47.96ID:mBCSuwoQ0
とりあえずYoutubeサーフィンで満足すんなよ
Youtubeは検索したり、ここに貼る手段が望ましい
Youtubeで音楽聴いた気になってたら危ない
0541訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 18:38:13.60ID:iTI0bZ5t0
>>531
俺の聴き方は当然ラッパーを聴いてるからフロウの良いものや味のあるものが好きなんだよ
進化退化云々じゃない
最近のも聴くけどな
何か抽象的なわかりにくいものを高尚とする雰囲気があるから一石投じてる
単に聴いてて気持ちいいものを俺は聴いてるだけだから
この流れだと誰も気軽に曲貼れないよって俺は言ってる
0542訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 19:53:27.72ID:nu8JTHU20
>>539
普通にApple MusicやSpotifyやその他で発表してるけど?
てか今日No Jamperがピックアップしてて手の込んだPVが良かったから貼っただけ

何も知らんくせに偉そうに能書き垂れるのやめた方がいいぞ
0543訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 19:58:39.71ID:iTI0bZ5t0
まあ生き字引おっさんの好きな曲貼りゃいいけど 
一日に10曲も20曲も数を打つなよ
マニアックゾーンしか許されない雰囲気出るし他のが流れるから
0544訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:01:41.46ID:n+aj5dhHM
>>540
そんなに詳しいなら、まだローカルヒットレベルだけど勢いあるアーティストで、1ヶ月以内くらいのイケてる新譜を5曲くらい教えてよ
偏った選曲じゃなくてバランスよく頼んます
0545訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:09:32.45ID:WvMu0NXP0
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0546訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:19:27.93ID:npf/88gvp
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0547訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:19:37.41ID:bvYpki6np
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0549訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:22:19.93ID:7eIOt6HJp
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0552訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 20:50:59.50ID:FpJmxU5E0
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0553訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:11:19.95ID:WvMu0NXP0
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0554訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:11:26.05ID:FOSkD6PXp
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0555訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:11:34.40ID:t+DWACnQp
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0556訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:11:42.61ID:Fd7BklgHp
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0557訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:11:51.18ID:sKFMzZ6xp
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0558訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:32:01.23ID:iTI0bZ5t0
こいつ日本人ラッパーよりラップ下手だなと思ったのはP.diddy
0559訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/26(火) 21:46:15.91ID:WvMu0NXP0
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0563訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 08:42:22.09ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>560
3番目までは新しい新鮮さがある
フロウは少し受け付けない感じ
4番目のはB.Dのとこがやや退屈
Issugi,仙人掌のとこは2019クラシック
5番目のは典型的前衛的HIPHOPで嫌い
本当に音楽としてやってるのか
深いぶってガキ騙したいだけじゃないかと勘ぐる
0564訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 08:50:52.54ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>560
間違えた
3番目は評価してなかった
3番目は普通のtrap
migosとかがやりそうな
0565訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 09:04:18.34ID:P5cX6MMC0
>>564
全然違うでしょw
思いっきりUKのノリじゃん
ほぼ知識ないけどGrimeってやつちゃうの?
0566訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 09:54:56.41ID:fRjO2Kl7d
>>565
ヘタクソだけどGrimeだな
これがMigosに聞こえるなら何聞いても楽しくないだろうにバカだよな
0567訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 11:46:06.34ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0568訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 11:48:06.99ID:fRjO2Kl7d
>>560
YUKSTA-ILLは生で見たことあってラップめっちゃ上手かった
boombapにこだわらないでPUNPEEみたいな曲やればPUNPEEと並べる奴だと思った
唯一無二にならないで似たタイプの奴はいた方がいいよ
0569訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 11:48:34.22ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0570訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 11:53:51.91ID:F2OBN+JkM
>>566
migosもこんなもんだ
あいつらはザtrapって感じのつまらん奴ら
>>568
Punpeeと並ぶにはもっとメロディー創作能力が無いと無理だと思う
0571訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 12:00:58.44ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0572訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 13:53:11.12ID:fRjO2Kl7d
>>570
いや、ラップスキルとビートメイクのスキルは、今は別でもいいでしょ
boombapの全部自分でやらなきゃいけない慣習だと、ラップスキル高い奴は物足りなくなる
YUKSTA-ILLについてはそういう意味で言ったけど、特に深い話ではないから、気にしないで

TrapとGrimeの違いが分からないならビート作っても伝わらない、上手く伝わらないってことはセンスがないんだけどね
0573訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 13:57:24.68ID:JX3xVcoAp
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0574訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 13:59:53.19ID:fRjO2Kl7d
MigosをThe Trapと一言で片付けられる程度にしか聞いてないから、君はいつまでもいつまでも勘所というかセンスが悪いんだとも思うけどねw
0576訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 14:44:11.56ID:x6UgNu9oa
自称評論家の鼻くそ太郎に絡まれて大変だなw
0577訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 14:58:51.52ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0578訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 14:59:25.66ID:H8Denmk+p
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0579訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 14:59:34.56ID:4S2vD4a2p
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0580訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 18:31:55.18ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0585訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:03:56.39ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0586訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:05:31.92ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0587訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:05:40.49ID:XT44f4HMp
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0588訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:05:49.12ID:9k86tqBtp
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0589訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:05:57.61ID:xRmr0CoVp
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0595訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:53:17.32ID:f7WWH4iu0
末尾x(笑)さんWWWWWWWW

ソフトバンクアクセスインターネットとは恐れ入りましたWWWWWWWWWWWW
0597訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 20:58:48.86ID:fRjO2Kl7d
再生回数が低くて鬱になりそうなくらいダサいつべが貼ってあったり、変な奴だらけで俺の出る幕がない

>>575
悪いが「Grimeとは」で検索してくれ
0598訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:03:40.01ID:fRjO2Kl7d
だいたいUSのスレで日本語ラップとかGrimeなのにGrimeかどうかも分からない低レベルを貼るな
0599訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:08:13.27ID:fRjO2Kl7d
ドヘタクソなGrimeもどき作った奴だって海の向こうでボロクソ言われてるなんて夢にも思ってないだろうし可哀想だろ
0600訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:25:40.82ID:T44GRs9n0
Grime?は?Trapと区別つけたいようだけどGrimeってTrapと何も変わらないから!
ぐちゃぐちゃ能書き垂れてるのは頭悪いちんかす、俺のゲロ飲んでから俺のうんこ食べろよ!
0602訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:43:48.14ID:ofR0U/Hj0
情報を整理するか

メインストリーム無知識おじさん
博識マイナーおじさん
Glimeおじさん

今のところ登場人物3人か
0603訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:44:23.39ID:f7WWH4iu0
>>597
>>544

あと出る幕はいつでも空けてあるし別にいつでも空いてるからいつ出てきてもいいよw
そういう宣言いらないから大丈夫w
0604訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:45:28.81ID:ofR0U/Hj0
俺は無知識メインストリー厶おじさんだけど
俺の感性で聴いてる
評価はフロウ過多
0606訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:47:10.87ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>605
俺は褒めてるんだぞ
ただいつもわかりにくいし曲数が多いからあまり好かないけど
0607訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:49:12.52ID:ofR0U/Hj0
この三人と名無しで喧嘩しながらスレ回して荒らし駆逐されてるからまあ悪くはないよ
0608訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:51:32.84ID:JITxCLb50
博識おじさん嫌いじゃないしむしろ好きだよ
ただちょっと好きなことになると熱くなるだけだよ
0609訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 21:53:55.47ID:ofR0U/Hj0
ICECUBEってラップうまいことになってるけどライミング以外のこと言ってるなら的外れな気がする
フロウの心地良さはイマイチなんだよな
0610訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:08:54.49ID:xsRjmSKEa
>>582
https://youtu.be/kzOppY4IivA

これめっちゃ気持ちいい
こんな感じのインストある?
0611訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:51:44.61ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0612訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:53:52.61ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>548
1番目はまあ良いと思うけど普通のtrap
2番目は展開無いからあまり好かんな
3番目はまじで嫌い
こういうPOPS崩れのラップが一番受け付けん
4番目はtrapのようなtrapじゃないような
もう少し聴かないとわからん
0613訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:54:09.40ID:Fary1TVjp
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0614訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:54:19.94ID:w0aWmIUVp
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0615訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 22:54:28.46ID:aZrtuIYvp
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0617訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:04:45.96ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>565
ググるとGlimeとはハウス的なものらしいな
ちゃんとトラック聴くとハウスやドラムンベースの雰囲気はある
migosとは違うな
その点は俺が悪かった
このレベルならmigosの方が上だわ
ただ奴らがありきたりなtrapって意見は変わらんけど
0619訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:14:19.53ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>582
シンゴ02は先生サヨウナラって曲よく覚えてる
今聴くと恥ずかしくなる
この貼った曲はフロウがまんまTwigyだな
>>616
一つの試みなんだろうけどやっぱダーティさあってのDreだと思うわ
こういう貼る曲は自分で一回は聴いてるの?
0622訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:30:55.98ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0623訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:31:16.91ID:NM07Lyitp
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0624訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:31:24.87ID:2eQX1C+sp
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0625訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:31:32.42ID:z0hC6sfqp
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0626訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:36:48.52ID:J+7boctcp
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0628訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:44:33.20ID:nSNLzHNR0
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0630訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:53:25.49ID:ofR0U/Hj0
>>620
そうこれ
JRAPの昔のアルバムは大概聴けたもんじゃないけどノスタルジーに浸れる
>>621
いつもセレクトが早いから本当に聴いてるのかなと勘繰ってた
0631訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/27(水) 23:56:09.95ID:xGIsi6GHp
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0632訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 00:00:47.70ID:X9axDPa5M
ふと思い出したんだが
そういや俺も2ちゃんで上の世代があーだこーだ話してるの見て後追いしたりしてたな
俺が見てた頃はKRSoneじじぃに煽られてよくイライラしてたわw
0633訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 00:02:08.87ID:PMlBSNhyM
ま、おかげで今はセンス良いって言われるようになったけどね
0634訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 00:02:09.73ID:U8BYUmvMp
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0636訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 15:23:49.78ID:x5NGvPAjp
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0639訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 20:45:51.14ID:QZX7mkUop
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0640訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 20:55:51.84ID:KOwEUbqgd
おれはGrimeおじさんになったのか。。。
Grimeの定義を説明出来るほど偉くはないんだが、春休みだからキッズが覗いても違いが分かるように貼っておく
分かってるって人は無視してくれ

まず、Migosはこういうのね
https://youtu.be/HeyfOEb7ET0
これはドレイクとやったやつ
https://youtu.be/fGqdIPer-ms
MigosのOffsetのソロ
https://youtu.be/Z51iEGMPQ9o
おれもMigos全部が良いとは思ってないんだが、このあたりはトラックもビジュアルもそんなに悪くないと思うよ

で、現行のUSのTrapはこういうのだね
比較的新しいのを貼っとく
https://youtu.be/FQ5ejcDrG9A
https://youtu.be/CdeZ1E0BptY
https://youtu.be/qq5ZFZCNPBo

で、UKのGrimeはこれね
Grimeの中ではかなり有名なのを選んでる
https://youtu.be/JrX-4oDTMy0
https://youtu.be/hyRGZCkBHcs
https://youtu.be/JjZGWRAoGO4
https://youtu.be/Q_QHA1PptDE
0641訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:10:04.99ID:KOwEUbqgd
>>612
>>548貼ったのおれなんだよね
21savageのa lotはJコールとの曲だからJコールとJコールのニアバイを貼ったのよ
3つ目はその中の売れ線ってことになるから確かに好みは別れるだろうね
コメントしてくれてありがとうね
0642訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:18:21.73ID:1rjYMAOd0
>>638
90年代にどっぷり浸かれば浸かるほど00年代は受け入れられないだろうな
それくらいメインで鳴ってた音はアクが抜けたフニャフニャな音楽

ただ00年代アンチコンやストーンズスロー周辺等かっこいいものもある


00年代って30代後半〜30代中頃の年齢じゃないの?
全国的に爆発的に中途半端なB系が増えた年代だよな
今ではほとんど面子も残っていないんじゃないかな
0643訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:21:25.81ID:KOwEUbqgd
>>575
>>617
簡単にまとめてみたから暇な時にでも見てよ

>>582
これ2つ目はMadlibだよね
おれもまあまあ好きだよ

>>603
分かった
>>544はおれじゃないからね
そんな5chでネタ拾うパクリ音楽ライターみたいなことは言わんw
0644訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:50:35.57ID:KOwEUbqgd
ケツかいてラーメンすすって24時間ツイッターでイキってる文字埋め乞食のネタにされるだけだから本当に良いものなんか貼る必要ないよ
ネタ引くのに自信がある人は仲間同士や有名になれるところカネになるところでやりなよ
0645訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:56:43.60ID:iuN7w5WAa
>>640
Trapのハットが苦手な俺からすればGrimeはかなりイけてるね
https://youtu.be/lFjFLqad0hs
0646訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:57:08.00ID:aKPuvr2E0
>>640
聴くの大変だから後で聴いとく
>>644
そのTwitterの奴らが金儲けしてるの?
アフィサイトではなくて?
0647訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:58:16.02ID:B/WjHmNsa
>>644
仲間がいたらこんなところでHIPHOP談義に花を咲かせないんだよなぁ
0648訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 21:58:51.25ID:KOwEUbqgd
ケツかいてラーメンすすって、深夜のファミレスでJKの会話を盗み聞きしたり、ライターのギャラでJKからパンツ買ったり援交したりしてる、陰キャのオタクのくせにギャルでしか興奮しないから、ヒップホップに近づいてる文字埋め乞食なんて、気持ち悪いよな‪w
0649訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 22:05:06.68ID:aKPuvr2E0
なんやこいつ
急に豹変して怖いんだけど
何か薬やってるだろ

博識おじさんも急に火がついて2pacがデジタルアンダーグラウンド云々騒ぎ出すし
変な奴多すぎな
0651訴える名無しさん。
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0652訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/28(木) 23:29:00.22ID:aKPuvr2E0
>>640
やっぱmigos好きじゃないわ
全体的に好きなものないな
Glimeの違いもイマイチわからん
とりあえずこいつら全員フロウがにてる
0655訴える名無しさん。
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0656訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/29(金) 00:01:42.29ID:34b6JGyM0
https://youtu.be/ksX_Xkf3Ryg

トラックは良いと思う
フックの作りが何というか昔のJRAPの無理矢理フック作らないといけない頃の投げやり感がある
kendrickならもう少し面白いフックになると思う
0657訴える名無しさん。
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0659訴える名無しさん。
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0662訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/29(金) 20:18:57.09ID:3JfbS7wg0NIKU
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0664訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/29(金) 21:37:30.30ID:Wu5I+VbUpNIKU
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0665訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/30(土) 09:47:49.39ID:rQdrY+Xod
>>660
博識マイナーおじさんかな?1つ目はいいよね
でもこれもうなかなかメジャーだけど
0666訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/30(土) 09:53:50.18ID:rQdrY+Xod
>>645
好き嫌いの話をしていないのを分かってくれたレスはあなただけみたいだ、ありがとう
Febb最高だよね
0668訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/30(土) 12:09:53.56ID:QTax1swap
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0670訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/30(土) 17:02:40.99ID:HC0CoyEs0
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0671訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:50:14.30ID:U1Y6odrb0
ヒップホップの世界で作曲ってどういう方法でやってるの?
プロデューサー=作曲家?
0672訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:57:52.16ID:RcdPlE5Wp
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0673訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:58:00.44ID:90mxXwa6p
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0674訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:58:08.03ID:wvDCam4Op
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0675訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:58:15.57ID:OCooIIBTp
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0676訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:58:24.88ID:XF0Cfp5Fp
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0677訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:08.21ID:+6eeH4mE0
サンプリングの度合いによる
本当の0からとか無いんじゃないかな
他ジャンルも含めて
0678訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:11.08ID:FOIJL8nK0
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0679訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:18.84ID:a+0bH8SEp
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0680訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:26.63ID:vGJWiOC/p
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0681訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:35.83ID:ik/dhkOGp
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0682訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 01:59:43.63ID:umqz1zENp
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0683訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:00:30.71ID:FOIJL8nK0
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0684訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:00:36.82ID:0t09RKMpp
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0685訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:00:44.53ID:JvHyqCizp
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0686訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:00:57.35ID:7nAFvobfp
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0687訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:35:37.83ID:U1Y6odrb0
>>677
サンプリングって他人の曲を借りて韻を踏むわけですよね?
そうじゃなくて0から作るってなるとって意味です
例えばロックだとギターやキーボード使って曲作りますが
ヒップホップの曲はどうなのかなと思って
全部がサンプリングってわけじゃないだろうしそれで気になりました
0688訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 02:40:18.21ID:FOIJL8nK0
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0689訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 05:56:14.42ID:PMdLXWSu0
>>687
基本的にはDTMだね
パソコン上のソフトで作る
今ならギターの音とかも出せるし、意外と何でもできる
0690訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 06:22:54.01ID:FOIJL8nK0
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0692訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 16:59:32.51ID:aZ9h066jp
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0694訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 18:04:16.38ID:xYP3vEYCp
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0696訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 18:10:29.86ID:NNUdKJYpp
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0697訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 18:31:50.28ID:U1Y6odrb0
>>695
えっ曲作りしないの?
0698訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 18:32:35.13ID:tKMBzSWxp
>>671
プロデューサーと作曲家はイコールであり、イコールでない場合もある
作曲家を雇って自分名義で曲を作らせる人もいる
有名どころではdiddy、dr.dre、kanye(後者二人は自分で作曲もできるけど)
あとmuroとdev largeもそうだな
0699訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 18:38:08.66ID:NNUdKJYpp
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0701訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 19:24:51.67ID:HH0Lzrjk0
>>695
何を言っているんだ
サンプリングしなきゃいけないなんてルールは存在しないわけで作曲の知識があれば0から作れる

環境が悪く学がない連中が始めた音楽だから後にサンプラーが使用されるのは必然的だったんだよ
結果的にHIPHOPにおいてサンプリングは文化として根付いている
0702訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 19:29:28.22ID:xoeeEaTpp
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0703訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 19:45:20.39ID:+6eeH4mE0
>>701
サンプリング自体認めてるよ
ただわざわざ0から作ってる奴がどれだけいるのかって話
このことは他のジャンルにも言える
0704訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 19:45:51.22ID:U1Y6odrb0
>>701
ヒップホップ界における作曲方法ってサンプリング以外はどういう方法があるの?
0705訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 19:49:26.09ID:ATip7K8Sp
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0706訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 20:10:27.52ID:PMdLXWSu0
>>704
これなんか0から作ってるよ
https://youtu.be/JvOBHAfXX1Y

まぁ、煽りたいだけなんだろうけど
0708訴える名無しさん。
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0709訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 20:58:19.16ID:MSHJ15F90
>>687
hiphop=ビート+ラップでよければビートの組み方に興味があるって事でいんだよね??
FACTmagazineの動画とかは見た?10分でビート作れって指令にビートメイカー達がちゃちゃっと応えていくのを収録したやつw

サンプリングなしで0から、機材のみで組み立ててくならこうやって音のパーツを自分で試しながら重ねていくやり方が今の標準じゃ?
デジタルを嫌って生音志向なら、スタジオで自分好みの音のために人呼んだり自分で弾いて録ってPCに取り込めば後は同じ!

https://youtu.be/IZJj-SCCQto
0710訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 21:30:27.41ID:1cszsqRAp
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0711訴える名無しさん。
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2019/03/31(日) 21:57:13.13ID:U1Y6odrb0
ありがとうございました
0712訴える名無しさん。
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0713訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 01:38:01.24ID:SBKyzvaO0USO
>>687
別に打ち込みで作った後、レコーディングの際バンドに弾いて貰えばいいだけだよ(^ω^)
0714訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 01:40:03.52ID:5g1mV4WtpUSO
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0715訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 02:09:10.12ID:A1Ov3lRF0USO
俺前ここでmigos嫌い言ってたけど好きになったわ
すまんかった
lil uzi vertとのやつ
kohhの元ネタのやつ
聴いて考えが変わった
0716訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 02:29:56.21ID:mnWFl93zpUSO
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0717訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 08:01:31.64ID:v8mghzHD0USO
>>703
じゃあこの答え方はおかしいだろ

695 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/03/31(日) 18:08:58.09 ID:+6eeH4mE0
>>687
HIPHOPはメロディや音を0から作れない
サンプリングしてるだけ
0723訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 12:59:10.16ID:4veSAB5/p
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0724訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 13:29:19.14ID:Emasp+mPa
>>717
究極的にはサンプリングでしょ
打ち込みなんだから元々のプリセットの音を使うし。
バンドサウンドにする以外サンプリング0ってのは難しいでしょ
0725訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 13:48:22.38ID:vxkmzjEI0
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0727訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 14:24:28.37ID:vxkmzjEI0
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0728訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 14:43:40.06ID:j84bNOVop
ニプシー(涙)
0729訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 16:29:01.16ID:vxkmzjEI0
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0731訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 18:05:11.93ID:vxkmzjEI0
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0733訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 21:48:09.62ID:+2emL+iWp
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0734訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 22:07:43.26ID:DZJuDayy0
ニプシーだって若くないにしろ、まだまだこれからって人だったのに残念だよな
0735訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 22:08:35.46ID:AwrEYB4dp
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0737訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 22:12:03.70ID:vxkmzjEI0
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0738訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 22:38:20.72ID:UnOUplW3a
YGと仲良かったよな。あの曲好きだった。
0739訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/01(月) 22:53:39.17ID:I8H5Z+Xnp
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0740訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 00:53:18.70ID:Lx1o/w6L0
向こうのラッパーは太く短くとかのレベルじゃねぇ
ギャング断って安全な所でセレブみたいに暮らせないんだな
0741訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 01:11:31.04ID:1BgySo8l0
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0742訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 01:27:23.53ID:xC+KTCHr0
向こうの生活のこときちんと知らないから気になるんだけどケンドリックもいつか死んじゃうの?
0743訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 02:04:19.00ID:1BgySo8l0
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0746訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 10:37:19.14ID:1BgySo8l0
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0748訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 16:24:43.75ID:UKTkNfY+p
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0749訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 18:12:05.38ID:Lx1o/w6L0
kodak blackの良さもわかってきた
君らの方が早かったようだ
音を加味して90年代よりは現代の方が面白いかもな
0750訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 19:34:45.22ID:iy1WXmEba
デンゼルカリーの良さがわからない
0753訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 21:02:06.71ID:UKTkNfY+p
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0754訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 21:24:30.19ID:yjnN3aok0
lil uziのリークされたMoney Keep Comingマジでハマるな
エモエモボースティングや
0755訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 21:57:47.55ID:UKTkNfY+p
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0756訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 22:09:53.08ID:VOTdILUp0
sam wise最高だよ
rack up とか DO OR DIE とか
0758訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/02(火) 22:57:44.31ID:1BgySo8l0
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0760訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 01:39:19.12ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0766訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 12:44:47.08ID:/XspOSKD0
アルカホリクスw

まぁこの近辺からMADLIBも排出されるわけだし
0767訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 12:47:09.35ID:/XspOSKD0
>>765
さあ
普通にドレや、スヌープ、キューブ、ウォーレンGとかその辺でいいだろ
0770訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 13:05:23.01ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0772訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 14:23:00.40ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0773訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 16:24:36.07ID:s+bP/Ze70
>>767
Dreは産まれが貧困地帯なだけで割と真面目君
snoopは売人だけど一瞬だけ
cubeもDreと同じ感じ
warrenはsnoopやnateのダチだけどただの良い奴

Eazy-Eだけがthug
0774訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0775訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 17:00:37.78ID:91KEK6w3p
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0776訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 17:52:56.19ID:1SnJTeA00
>>774
ラッパーとしてしょぼい奴らをサグサグ言うて喜ぶて間抜けすぎる
0778訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:01:28.33ID:SGzQT+Qjp
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0781訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:11:28.47ID:/XspOSKD0
>>780
ギャングスタラップ(ラッパー)という言葉はドレのクロニック以降の言葉で古いんだが
よく知らねーけどいまだにギャングスタラッパーって言葉が通るの?
0782訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:13:52.45ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0785訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:24:43.03ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0786訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:28:43.07ID:/XspOSKD0
>>784
あーそうなんだまだそんなクソ古くせーだせえことやってんだ2019年に
これお前だろ?
この羅列されたチーフなんとかとコダックなんとかって奴の曲貼れよ聴いてやるから
メリーだのグッチだの全部貼れよ全部聴いてやっから

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0787訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:37:14.66ID:Xb8qAq/Aa
グッチメインはガチ過ぎる。
0789訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 18:56:14.34ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0790訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 19:33:03.73ID:s+bP/Ze70
俺達はいつでも少しでも違うとすぐに揉める
何故ならHIPHOPを聞いてるからだ
0791訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 19:48:25.62ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0792訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 19:59:34.85ID:/XspOSKD0
>>788
バレるも何もニワカなので貼ってくださいませんかねえ?
仕方なく聴いてあげますので
0793訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:04:05.42ID:/XspOSKD0
88年から30年経った今もギャングスタラッパー(笑)という言葉が通るらしいので
是非とも玄人の選曲を聴かせて下さいねよろしゅう
0794訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:05:18.26ID:s+bP/Ze70
90年代よりも今の方が圧倒的に悪いよな
2pac周りが突出してたけどそこの一角だけだからな
0797訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:14:50.40ID:/XspOSKD0
>>795
そうですか
わかりました笑
貼れませんか笑
何言われるかわかんないすもんね笑
その前に実はわかりませんか?笑ですよね?笑ね?笑
0802訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:21:09.40ID:Xxu69HOt0
うわぁ 知らないニワカ発狂連投してるやんwww
恥晒してるなあw
ヒップホップ知らないならロムしてろ雑魚ww
0803訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:42:21.77ID:/XspOSKD0
チーフキーフの動画のURLがNGワードに引っかかって貼れないんだがw
0805訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:45:55.98ID:/XspOSKD0
え?これがヤバいの?(爆笑)
え?って言うか
へ?みたいな
0806訴える名無しさん。
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0807訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 20:57:49.38ID:Xxu69HOt0
知らなくて悔しいのうw

内容も意味わかってないくせにw
雑魚がww
論点すり替えてラァwww
0808訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 21:14:01.64ID:a64AD9QYp
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0809訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 21:47:01.25ID:/XspOSKD0
>>807
??????
わ?わ?わ?
論点?お前で探せって言ったから探して感想述べたら論点すり替えだと?
髄液に蛆虫でも湧いてるのかな?

ねえねえ。これでギャングスタラッパー気取りなの?
0812訴える名無しさん。
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0813訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 21:55:19.18ID:/XspOSKD0
だから何度も言ってるけどギャングスタラッパー(笑)ニワカなのね俺は
目ん玉くり抜かれたか?見えてる?

で、

玄人さんの>>807>>810さんにゲンスタレッパーのノウハウをニワカのボクに教えて下さいよー頼みますよ
髄膜まで蛆虫に侵入されたのかな?眼球で追ってここまで読めますか?
0814訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 21:56:42.97ID:Xxu69HOt0
>>809
てめえが勝手に絡んできたんだから自分で探せカスwww
てめえの感想なんてどうでもいいんだよニワカだからw
じじい死ねw
0816訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:08:05.64ID:/XspOSKD0
>>814>>815
780 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 18:08:56.94 ID:Xxu69HOt0
>>777
古いとか新しいとかじゃねーだろギャングスタラッパーはwwwwww死ね



これ780お前だろ?
マジレスすると
これ見てわかるけどお前が俺に絡んできてないかな?違うの?
毎度文章から餓鬼臭が滲み出てるし10代の学生なんだろうけど
あと20年くらいしたらお前とは話が出来るかな
そろそろ入学式だろ?色んな意味で頑張れ
0817訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:09:11.10ID:s+bP/Ze70
かつて俺もここで揉めてたけど
その時はまだちゃんと議論してたよ
これはガキの口喧嘩じゃねぇか
0819訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:11:29.50ID:t+u/XQ2vd
10代の学生にムキになって長文反論は草

同じレベルなんだよお前ら2人w
0820訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:12:45.62ID:/XspOSKD0
はいはいw
同レベルありがとうございますw

歳上のボクからごめんなさいしときますね
0821訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:13:37.81ID:Xxu69HOt0
こんなガイジと同レベルとかwww

こいつ知的障害のじじいだろwww
0823訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:16:24.52ID:/XspOSKD0
簡単だぞ?日本語で言うから日本語で答えればおK

780はお前か?小僧
0827訴える名無しさん。
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0828訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:34:19.90ID:/XspOSKD0
>>826
とりあえずHIPHOPの入口は広い
お前のような奴でも誰でも入れるし受け入れてくれる
今お前は入口から数歩の所にいるがそこから先は遠くて深い



お前の挙げたラッパーの楽曲、全員糞ダサいし俺は自分から2度と聴くことはない
雰囲気すらダサい
0831訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 22:54:50.29ID:s+bP/Ze70
ところでG-EAZYとEAZY-Eは何か関係あるのか?
リスペクトしてるのかな
0832訴える名無しさん。
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0834訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/03(水) 23:46:49.63ID:vTyYXbhG0
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0835訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 02:43:22.12ID:rzpeyTIE0
USヒップホップはブラッズかクリップス、結局は赤青なんだよ
ケンドリック・ラマーですらブラッズだと言われていて、USのヒップホップシーンではギャングスタってメジャーになってもしつこいほど切れない根強いコミュニティなわけだ
USヒップホップシーンはそんな古臭いダサい事を2019年の未だにまだやっているんだよ!
Jay-ZやDreみたいに完全に抜けれた奴らは賢いし賞賛に値する!
因みにニプシーハッスルも例に上げるが、今後しばらく、若いラッパーはギャングと縁切りできるくらい上に上がらないと『射殺』という文字が必ずついて回るだろう!
0837訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 03:24:24.72ID:vp/4iSxSx
音的に90年代ってギャングやりつつ仲間とワイワイ楽しむって感じ
最近のはつるむけどどっちかっていうと自分のワルアピール優先って感じ
ごめん勝手なイメージ
0838訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 04:32:11.90ID:w1wKzf+w00404
>>837
それは合ってる
Homie的な感じは90年代の方が感じる
HIPHOPが稼げるって知れてる時代だからそうなってるかもな
昔は総力戦で売りに行ってたと思う
0839訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 04:39:46.23ID:FGZyxQD0a0404
むこうのマフィアとギャングはどうちがうんだろう。マフィアはもうほとんど活動がみられないらしいけども。
日本でいうヤクザと半グレのちがいに近いのかな。
0840訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 04:40:54.99ID:w1wKzf+w00404
この機会にNipsey聴いてみてるが
今のところあまり良いとは思わないな
0842訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 12:23:30.02ID:kQd2X2eb00404
>>835
マジレスするとケンドリックラマーはただ単に金を渡してるんだと思うんだが
有名どころはほとんどが資金の提供だろう

見返りとして何かトラブルに巻き込まれれば彼らギャングが守ってくれる
あとはトラブル回避の抑制力だな
やってることは日本のヤクザまがいの田舎のチンピラと変わらん
0843訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 12:27:42.14ID:kQd2X2eb00404
昨夜も言ったがギャングスタHIPHOP自体が進歩なしのコミュニティなんだよ
もう30年後も同じことやってるし同じリリックだよ

だからギャングスタに古い新しいもねえっていう自称玄人の子供の考えは間違い
完全に古いってのが答えだよ
30年先も古い
0844訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 12:28:25.22ID:nP2oyarNd0404
キュウバンリンク
0845訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 12:46:55.86ID:jkIgKhCmp0404
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0846訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 13:48:47.07ID:oThXcJ1DM0404
>>843
時代に合わせてギャングスタ ヒップホップも変化してるよ
時代遅れのギャングスタ爺が昔は良かったって嘆いてるしそういう事だ
0847訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 14:09:02.25ID:rzpeyTIE00404
去年からブラッズとクリップスが激しくやり合っているから今年も犠牲者が何人か出るだろうなぁ
ブラッズがこのままだやられっぱなしで黙ってないでしょ
0848訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 14:20:36.64ID:qsWwNoDKp0404
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0849訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 19:19:02.77ID:Q96lbKtu00404
>>830
すまんな

楽曲はさておき
とりあえずイケてるギャングスタラッパーとしてコダックブラックとかいう名前が挙がってたが
ブルーノマーズと絡んでるのかw
その時点でギャングとしてたかが知れてるわなぁ
ヤワな野郎だぜ

昔で言えばスカーフェイスがマイケルジャクソンと曲やってるようなもんだ
昔なら失笑とともに叩かれてるんだろうけど俺は変化とは思わないな
退化だよ
0850訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 19:23:10.27ID:F6WodOnip0404
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0852訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 19:48:15.43ID:kYVSNP9e00404
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0853訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 20:01:28.58ID:u40e2HorM0404
アホなお左翼さん達の何でも安倍が悪い論調と同じだな
0854訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 20:15:30.63ID:kYVSNP9e00404
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0855訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 20:54:16.35ID:w1wKzf+w00404
>>851
横からだがそれで君はいつ具体的に議論するんだい?
返しがワンパターン過ぎてつまらん
0857訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:13:21.96ID:kYVSNP9e00404
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0858訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:16:41.35ID:w1wKzf+w00404
めちゃくちゃ頭悪い奴がいるんだなぁ
こいつが荒らしじゃね?
会話が出来ないもんな
0860訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:17:47.98ID:kYVSNP9e00404
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0861訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:21:46.68ID:E3KxzhW+00404
NGに逃げるニワカばれた雑魚じじいwww
負けを認めたなww
0863訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:31:49.29ID:Q96lbKtu00404
>>862
明らかってどこが?
残念ながら見当違いのただのアホの勘ぐり妄想だよ
0864訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:35:25.45ID:w1wKzf+w00404
>>862
すまんけど自演じゃないわ
それよりも早くちゃんと具体的に議論してくれよ
ちゃんと議論も出来てないから見苦しいから横から口挟んでるんだよ
どう考えても逃げてるからね
0866訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 21:40:53.48ID:kYVSNP9e00404
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0867訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:04:43.03ID:Q96lbKtu0
774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ


くそ笑えるWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
0869訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:18:39.83ID:Q96lbKtu0
>>868
774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ


まじで?WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
0870訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:20:28.76ID:Q96lbKtu0
868 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/04(木) 23:09:00.82 ID:aV6vXMt9d
自演バレバレで発狂しちゃったなw

で?WWWWWWWWWWWW
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
0871訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:23:15.10ID:Q96lbKtu0
自演w
バレバレw

次はこれで攻めてきてるの?
かわゆいねえ
0872訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:27:06.91ID:E3KxzhW+0
NGぶっこみ
子供すぎる

と言いつつ自演まで暴かれて発狂中www

NGまだかなぁ?www
0873訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:29:31.67ID:kYVSNP9e0
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0874訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:31:06.51ID:Q96lbKtu0
>>872
まず、お前が暴けよ
暴いてみ
その自演とやらを

そんなことよりさ、お前のこれ最高WWWWWWW

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0875訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:34:55.21ID:Q96lbKtu0
ID:aV6vXMt9d
ID:E3KxzhW+0

ねえねえ(ニヤニヤ)
ID別ける必要あるの?(ニヤニヤ)

まあいっか
そんなことよりさ、お前のこれWWWWWWWWW

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0876訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:37:07.69ID:Q96lbKtu0
774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ


おもろい
0877訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:40:09.54ID:E3KxzhW+0
昨日言い負かされて相当悔しかったみたいだねwww
自演とニワカ暴かれて二夜連続惨敗かあw

NGぶっこみまだかな?ww
悔しくてNGできないんだろww
反応しちゃううwww
0878訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/04(木) 23:43:03.64ID:Q96lbKtu0
>>877
言い勝ったんだ?w
2連敗?w

そんなことよりこれだよ今は!
↓↓↓

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0879訴える名無しさん。
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0881訴える名無しさん。
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0882訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 01:33:13.81ID:j6h9Fx+30
>>880
殿堂入り

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ
0884訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 01:59:58.33ID:71equpnP0
具体的な話が出来ないバロホキッズよりはマイナーおじの方が好感は持てる
けどマイナーおじもしょーもない煽りやるからな
0885訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:04:10.96ID:F/ZALDYh0
NGできない逃げた雑魚さんwwwww
悔しいのうw

ニワカも自演もばれたww
0887訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:10:21.41ID:j6h9Fx+30
>>885
https://i.imgur.com/e7B1KfE.jpg

774 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/03(水) 16:30:28.78 ID:Xxu69HOt0
今だとチーフキーフとかコダックブラックがやばいね他にもいる?
メリーさんは仲間2人殺して今捕まってるらしいね
グッチメインさんはサグ



他にもいる?は草
0888訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:13:06.03ID:F/ZALDYh0
じじいが高校生に粘着してて哀れやのうwwww

自演やニワカばれて悔しいのうw
0891訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:21:05.36ID:F/ZALDYh0
と自ら自演のトリックを暴露

あほやこいつwww

自演バレてニワカばれたあw
0892訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:28:19.08ID:j6h9Fx+30
言ってることが意味不明

そんなことよりこのお前のうっかりミスったらWWW

888 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/05(金) 02:13:06.03 ID:F/ZALDYh0
じじいが高校生に粘着してて哀れやのうwwww

自演やニワカばれて悔しいのうw
0893訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:30:10.66ID:j6h9Fx+30
痛恨のミスwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

888 名前:訴える名無しさん。 [sage] :2019/04/05(金) 02:13:06.03 ID:F/ZALDYh0
じじいが高校生に粘着してて哀れやのうwwww

自演やニワカばれて悔しいのうw
0894訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:33:39.42ID:HqZ01UdSx
やのうwwとか
のうwwって高校生使うかな?
2ちゃん慣れした40オーバーにもみえる
0896訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:36:37.96ID:71equpnP0
マイナーおじも病的だろ
このキッズは話通じないのもうわかっただろ
目障りな同じような煽りあいすんなよ
荒らしと変わらん
せめて内容のあるバトルしてるなら何にも言わんがな
だからもう無視しろよ
0897訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 02:40:11.29ID:j6h9Fx+30
16〜17歳のちん毛が生えてまだ間もない子供なんて知識もなけりゃ経験もないからな
そりゃ無意味なことをここで連呼して喚くのが精一杯なはずだわ
何も言えないんだよ無知だから


相手のレベルに合わせて自分を落とすことも必要
上から叩くだけが能じゃない
0898訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 03:13:27.05ID:1j+qbVhMp
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0900訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 03:29:45.29ID:qwV9OgMH0
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0905訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 12:33:01.23ID:j6h9Fx+30
>>904
働いてるよ
色んなワークスタイルがあんだよ世間知らず
通勤に新幹線使う奴、自宅が職場な奴、俺は自宅の近所が職場で昼飯を食いに自宅まで毎日帰る

ところでお前さ、みんなに同意を求めるのは何故?自論に対し自信を持って展開せよ
HIPHOPから何を学んでるんだ?
0907訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 12:40:19.17ID:qwV9OgMH0
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0908訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 12:43:29.23ID:j6h9Fx+30
坊やら次は無職で攻めてくるのかい?
どのパターンで来ても結局同じね君は
全てにおいて薄い

子供だから仕方ない面もあるが、基本や芯の部分は大人になってもそうは変わらん
まだ若いから頑張れ
探究心だけは持ち続けろよ若者よ
0910訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 14:01:04.80ID:M5KpqUYtp
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0911訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 18:53:31.08ID:j6h9Fx+30
>>909
それが君の全てなのかな?そんなもんじゃないだろう?
おじさんが驚くくらいの君の真のスペックを魅せてくれよ
0912訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 18:57:06.14ID:qwV9OgMH0
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0916訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 19:54:18.46ID:j6h9Fx+30
>>915
うーん、残念

NGに再登録したからね
もう絡んであげないのでバイバイさよなら
0917訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 19:58:22.31ID:5+5hHQMM0
かまたくとおじは何年ケンカしてるんだよ
もういい加減やり合うのはやめて和解しなければならないよ
USのヒップホップシーンと同じレベルで流石にダサいぞ二人とも
0920訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 22:05:03.60ID:VYYAeUTJp
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0921訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 22:15:15.16ID:j6h9Fx+30
https://youtu.be/5mmEgt5ZCZw

盗作だと話題だけどステレオタイプなんだよね良いか悪いか別にして右向け右の音楽ってやつ
こいつらってこういう流行りが終わったらまた新しい流行でやるだけなんだろうなあ
今の流行りの音は日本語を乗せやすいしスキル差が現れにくいからいいけどさ
モノマネとしてのクオリティーは高いのは認める
今から20年後に海外の人間にこの楽曲が賞賛されるかと言えば疑問だな

もっとも危ないのはガキが聴いてこれが全てだと錯覚を起こしてしまうこと
ダンジョン視聴している子供がフリースタイルこそがHIPHOPだと勘違いしているのと同じ
非常に思考を狭めてしまう危険性がある
0923訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 22:47:08.33ID:71equpnP0
>>913
こういう不協和音みたいなトラックってあるよな
トラックメイカーが適当にストックしてるやつが回ってくるんだろ
ラッパーがかわいそう
0924訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/05(金) 22:55:15.05ID:LsasY0+Ma
>>918
このアニメこんなに金使って採算取れるのか?
0928訴える名無しさん。
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0930訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 00:48:49.05ID:IH/hV+ez0
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0932訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 02:08:49.77ID://5yxm7M0
>>925
俺のチャンネルじゃないよ
動画が消えてるんだがチャンネルの主がここ見たかもな
0933訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 02:15:18.45ID:qbugAYcYp
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0934訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 03:02:47.20ID:80VsQNgT0
>>932
こんなに再生低い動画どうやって持ってくるんだよ
まあいいけど
動画上げてる人に悪いことしたな
0935訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 03:11:03.81ID:qbugAYcYp
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0938訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 07:50:40.18ID://5yxm7M0
個人的には最近は堅苦しいのはあまり
佐野観くらいがちょうどユルくて良いかな

黒田卓也とかさ佐野観、日本人っていうか今の音楽家達ってしっかり学校で音楽を勉強してるんだよね
40年50年前なら鼻で笑われたんだろうが、専攻して大学で学んで音楽やるっていうのが当たり前の時代

https://youtu.be/GYWVH9chn1o
0939訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 08:19:12.03ID:Jx/9rPACa
>>937
博識すぎ
マイナー博識おじさんから音楽博士に改名な
0940訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 08:28:49.54ID://5yxm7M0
>>939
そんなことはない
単なる音楽好きなだけだって
うーん好きともちょっと違うか

俺が博識や博士だとすれば神レベルが世の中にはゴロゴロいる
0942訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 12:32:45.28ID://5yxm7M0
>>941
ブクロのギャングか、ピークは90年代後半だな
ドラマ化したし田舎の不良やチンピラ、ヤクザになりきれてない弱小ヤクザ共に影響を与えたんだろ
当時東京に住んでた身からすると邪魔で仕方なかったけどなw


動画3分くらいまでは笑って観てたけど、そこからは感心すら覚えたわ
この黒い服の男、言ってることが中々芯があって肝が座ってて良い
周りのエトセトラみたいなのはガキっぽいな
0943訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 12:35:44.53ID:WqPusb/Gp
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0945訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 14:43:14.54ID:80VsQNgT0
HIPHOPという1ジャンル整理するだけでもつれぇ
他のジャンル行ける気がしねぇ
ロックもレジェンドのmixとか聴いてみるけど肌に合わねぇ
0947訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 14:53:36.01ID:Jx/9rPACa
>>945
地続きのジャズなら面白いんじゃない?
サンプリングソースとか見つけた時脳汁でるよ
0949訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 15:52:28.68ID:IH/hV+ez0
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0950訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 18:17:31.81ID://5yxm7M0
>>944
まぁな
確かに良いことを言っているが、
このJayzの心情はパンピーな下界の俺には解らない領域だろう
金を持った側の心の底から出た意見だ

関係ない話
これは誤解を産むかもしれんけど
Jay-zって俺の中ではいまだにDead Presidentだけの一発屋って感じなんだよな
俺や俺の周りではそういう認識なんだよな
ストレッチ&ボビートでのBIG Lとのフリースタイルがピーク
0952訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 19:11:00.29ID:80VsQNgT0
やっぱこれ聴いてると正義的で健全なHIPHOPのいい面出てるわ
ラップもかなり上手いし
0953訴える名無しさん。
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0954訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 21:18:48.84ID:Pn98C5780
今年はトラップのアルバムは凶作だな
2チェインズはそこそこ良かったが
0955訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 21:36:55.90ID:wwHfC/9pp
去年の作品だけどBEPの新譜が傑作だった
will i amはdreに匹敵するプロデューサーだと思う
0956訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/06(土) 21:55:03.81ID:IH/hV+ez0
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0957訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/07(日) 13:39:08.09ID:r8Zpt4FBa
UK JAZZ掘れば掘るほど面白いな
音楽博士aka博識マイナーおじさんありがとう

日本でジャズが奮わないのは音楽的な素養が低いからかね
UKみたいに若手が出てこないもんな
https://youtu.be/dzYlG9SGGWk
YoYo the Pianoman / O.G.Blues
0958訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/07(日) 13:47:41.89ID:sEgD/p4g0
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0960訴える名無しさん。
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0962訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 00:58:38.16ID:NB3WvISn0
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0963訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 12:36:17.78ID:b25rSZJq0
WREPいい選曲してると思うぜ
先日はマーヴィンの命日だったからね
0964訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 12:58:08.90ID:PWRFNzgb0
結局トラップなんて日本では流行ってないね
うんこミュージックだわ
0966訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 13:16:19.19ID:8h+Giqz3d
ジジイって自分が恵まれた時代の音楽しか認められない悲しい生き物なんだな
常に客観性をもって温故知新が出来てる大人はGrimeおじさんぐらい
0967訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 13:46:01.44ID:ybfE54wB0
>>964
日本のTRAPはイマイチだな
>>965
KOHH自体もオリジナリティあってラップとして面白いかというとそんなにだな

USのTRAPもたまにメロディが怪しいヒット曲あるよな
BADHOPのことそう悪くは言えないな
0969訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 15:35:26.56ID:Uaa4jbzIp
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0970訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 15:38:48.66ID:ybfE54wB0
>>968
まあ確かにな
俺はそんなに面白い曲無いと思ってるけど第一人者ならお前の言うこともわかる
0972訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 16:15:51.12ID:GN9pV5xk0
ワースト・アルバム2018
http://themainstream.jugem.jp/?eid=3691

1.Total Xanarchy/ Lil Xan

1位はリル・ザンですね。これはひどかった!エモ・トラップとかマンブル・ラップと言われてる人たちって若いキッズ(それも非黒人多し)には人気あるけど、
アメリカのヒップホップ系メディアのフェイスブックのコメント欄見てても、ものすごくディスがひどくて、
白人のインディ・ロック・メディアがもてはやすような「ヒップホップは今がいい時代」みたいな雰囲気、実はあんまりありません。
結構、不満溜まってる人が多いです。今年の年間とか見ててもカーディとトラヴィス・スコットとプッシャT以外はほとんど、
かなりオルタナティヴな方向に振り切ったものをベストに選ぶ傾向目立ってましたからね。



この前アルバム1位だったNavも評価ボロクソだしな
2019年で今んとこベスト扱いされてるのがUKのLittle Simzと「ヒップホップ回帰」が求められてるのは伝わる
0973訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 16:27:46.23ID:RFdTPHFkp
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0975訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 17:53:44.99ID:ef+iA31Oa
最近のメインストリームはロックに寄ってる気がしたけど、みんなそう思ってんだな
0976訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 17:57:14.66ID:3/1g9UmZp
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0977訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 19:40:37.19ID:Hmm5aXijx
今のTRAPってなんだろ、音じゃなくて
聞いてると意識が内に向いていく感じがロックと似てる
外交的なイメージがあったから
HIPHOP聞き始めたんだけどなぁ
0978訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 19:44:16.31ID:zHnmDIXfM
>>972
よくわかんないランキング持ってくるね
結果ありきでネタ探してるのバレバレだぞw
アホくさ
0979訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 20:21:53.75ID:kmDngHHup
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0981訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 20:44:47.94ID:NB3WvISn0
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0984訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 21:41:44.36ID:NB3WvISn0
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0986訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 22:13:33.10ID:NB3WvISn0
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0989訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/08(月) 22:57:14.07ID:NB3WvISn0
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0990訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/09(火) 01:29:50.79ID:Ror/rFAo0
次スレ立ててくれた人ありがとう
けど前スレ埋めずに次行く傾向あるから次からは埋まってから立てても良いな
どうせ過疎スレではあるし
0991訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/09(火) 10:28:59.13ID:tWrdK1G4p
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0993訴える名無しさん。
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0994訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/09(火) 18:05:23.68ID:i7+AaJCh0
質問!
マイナーGってなんですか?
新しいギターのコードかな?
0996訴える名無しさん。
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2019/04/09(火) 18:27:58.67ID:e/+6Ohdo0
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0999訴える名無しさん。
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10011001
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Over 1000Thread
このスレッドは1000を超えました。
新しいスレッドを立ててください。
life time: 38日 3時間 35分 9秒
10021002
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Over 1000Thread
5ちゃんねるの運営はプレミアム会員の皆さまに支えられています。
運営にご協力お願いいたします。


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★ 5ちゃんねる専用ブラウザからの広告除去
★ 5ちゃんねるの過去ログを取得
★ 書き込み規制の緩和
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会員登録には個人情報は一切必要ありません。
月300円から匿名でご購入いただけます。

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レス数が1000を超えています。これ以上書き込みはできません。

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