US HIPHOP 総合
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は?日本語がそもそもラップに向いてないのに何言ってんの?
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何が言いたい?
向いている向いていないの話をするの?
韻の踏みやすさで言うと向いてはいない
HIPHOPに限った話題ではなくて邦楽の楽曲のレベルの話をしている
それに日本人がやる音楽で日本語である必要もない しょーもな
レベル低いの分かったから講釈たれんほうがいいよ君 >>410
はーい
おkおk講釈たれないよ
お前が来なければいいんじゃね?
呼んだっけ?俺
で、お前は一体何の話がしたいの?独り言? そもそもだと?
向いていない理由を一切言わない雑魚が何だって?
向いていない以前に
そもそもさ(笑)
当時のブロンクス在住の黒人やプエルトリカンの使用言語の英語以外の言語は考慮されてない
特に日本語は英語とは文法がまるで違うし英語はアルファベット26字、
日本語は48字、さらに平仮名、片仮名、漢字
英語なら〜tion、〜ly、〜ry、〜er等の語尾で簡単に踏みまくれるが
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こういう2010年代からって戯言抜かしてる幼稚で浅い子供がいるのも仕方ないんだよ
もうその頃には業界はヒップホップを過度な商業的方向と大衆洗脳に使うようにほぼ全てのプロデューサーやラッパーはコントロールされているのに…
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その頃もなにもビギーが死んだ97年からパフダディーが死を商売したり商業的に進んだじゃねーかよ
死者を出した東西戦争で金になるはずの業界のイメージが地に落ちた為にpopな方向にシフトしたろ
2010年代からではなく97年から始まってんのよ
そこんとこわかる?
hot97等のラジオ局もブッシュ政権の圧力でダーティーなHIPHOPは徹底的にオンエアされなくなっていったろ
この頃から完全にコントロールされている 俺はジャンルで壁を作って仕切ってしまうことはナンセンスと言ってるだけなのに
何故コントロールがどうとかの話に勝手に脳内変換されてしまうんだろう
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メインストリームしかわからん
一人もわからんわ
本国のhiphop好きよりも聴き込んでるだろ 41JBc2OA4Y34G2YJfXU2xmnv21QZ4A5FrkcwoSHimwv193jgkVK7uACg42QLNsK6NqN32XPkTYgC1OzuoUlD93IPpe7jDHlkwXmBYYi02A0xPbXQAcThlqTUu9kVxjKIeeCUHpkh7p0QOk9452gcBwEq
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かなり有名どころばかり並べたつもり
というか90'sならば当たり前のような曲達
この辺は少しマニアック
https://youtu.be/Lx6PVHgPbIg >>446
メインストリームとイメージするのはdreやsnoopらだぞ
その他にも細々知ってるけどお前が貼ってる奴らは一人も知らない
西海岸一つとってもメインストリーム周辺だけでもかなりの人数がいる
そこでもうお腹いっぱいになるわ
それでも現代では俺はdigってる方だと思ってたけど >>446 ファーサイドって西だったんですね。
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ドレやスヌープって要するにG-FUNK屋さんっしょ
君の中で西海岸=G-FUNKっていう固定観念みたいな
俺が貼り付けたものは、やってる音楽がG-FUNKではないだけで割とメインストリームなものだよ
ちなみに>>450-452、>>454は俺が貼り付けんじゃない。別の人 ID:5o8uak9Z0はイケてる
ID:ghlgbN010はもう飽きた 90年代おじさんじゃなくてトラップお兄さんも教えてよ >>461
そうか飽きたかw
つうか飽きが早すぎるなw
まあそんなもんだろ
イケてるて自分で貼り付けて言ってりゃ世話ねーわな 別に俺は90年代おじさんでもなんでもないよ
古いのをあえて貼ってるだけで2019年おじさんだよ
例えばDR.ドレのクロニックのような教典になるようなオリジナルな作品、
その後のシーンに影響を及ぼすような作品ってのがあるがそういう元のところから追わないと駄目だと思うんだよ
順当な流れで追ってかないと理解は難しい 41JBc2OA4Y34G2YJfXU2xmnv21QZ4A5FrkcwoSHimwv193jgkVK7uACg42QLNsK6NqN32XPkTYgC1OzuoUlD93IPpe7jDHlkwXmBYYi02A0xPbXQAcThlqTUu9kVxjKIeeCUHpkh7p0QOk9452gcBwEq
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クロニック以前のN.W.Aのサウンドやアイスキューブのサウンドから順に聴いてみると
いかにドレのクロニックが当時衝撃で、そこから枝分かれしていったか解るだろうな
NYで生まれたヒップホップの猿真似を辞めた瞬間である 41JBc2OA4Y34G2YJfXU2xmnv21QZ4A5FrkcwoSHimwv193jgkVK7uACg42QLNsK6NqN32XPkTYgC1OzuoUlD93IPpe7jDHlkwXmBYYi02A0xPbXQAcThlqTUu9kVxjKIeeCUHpkh7p0QOk9452gcBwEq
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俺はメインストリーム好きだしカッコイイと思ってる
>>459
俺の中では西海岸はG'FUNk以外は存在しないことになってた
俺浅いから
それでも今それに対して知識ある奴居ないから俺は掘ってる方だと思う
あんたは知りすぎてる
このスレでの神だ
俺にはわかりにくくて取っ付きにくいけどな 大体hiphop聴く奴が少ないし
聴いてても日本語だしその中でも割と有名なのだけとかになる
US聴いてる奴はほとんどいないんじゃないかな
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だからマイナーじゃないと何度言えば…
基本だよ基本
>>470
最初の方、貼ってるが理解できないだろ
世界的にここ数年ブーンバップブーンバップ言って90'sのリバイバルが来てるっちゅうに
ダサいだの何だの言ってる奴は何なんだよw
俺がズレてるように言ってるが、そいつが世の流れ、シーンの流れからはズレてるからな
そこんとこいいかね? >>473
俺は知識が浅かろうがマウント取る気もないし最初に言ったけど広めたいと思ってるから
若い時は自分で付けた知識を人には教えたくなかったし、これがHIPHOP(俺が1番の精神)っていうのもあるけどさ
まぁ俺はかなり歳くって考えも変わってきたね
叩くヤツが出てきてるが強がってるとかじゃなく正直言って俺とは試合にならないと思ってる
俺は邦楽のレベルが上がったから洋楽を聴く必要性は一昔ほどはない感じてると書いたが
世界でも遜色ない、またはそれ以上のクオリティーが今の邦楽にはある
まぁそういう理由だよ では、最近の話をしましょうか?
近年、ドレイクが他ジャンルに影響を与えまくってる
ドレイク曰く、俺はHIPHOPアーティストではない。
だそうだ。
ドレイクのアルバムにpassionfruitという曲があるんだが
世界中のアーティストがこの曲をカバーするのが密かに流行っているんだ
それはプロから火がついて今や素人までカバーしてる
数曲貼るが興味があれば調べてみるといいよ
ちなみにこれが原曲
https://youtu.be/COz9lDCFHjw
https://youtu.be/xHzB8KAuEr8
https://youtu.be/xqocviCDm8Y
他にも以外なアーティストもカバーしてたりするし
この曲に影響を受けてアンサーのように作った曲がわんさかある 最近の若いやつでブーンバップスタイルのカッケーやつらいる?
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俺ん時は自分で調べて、歩いてディグるしかなかったけど今はYoutubeがあるから指だけでガンガン聴ける
AppleやgoogleやSpotify等の月額配信も少しづつだがクラブミュージックなんかも充実してきたからね
俺はアナログとCD合わせると7000枚以上は所持してるけどほとんど今はSpotifyでしか音楽は聴いていない
てなわけで5000万曲を普段から持ち歩いているが、困ったことに有難味や思い入りが失せて全く新譜を覚えられない
配信にはCDみたいにジャケットがないからだろうか
俺は2000年以降HIPHOPはほとんど買ってもないし聴いていない
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>俺は2000年以降HIPHOPはほとんど買ってもないし聴いていない
都合のいい事だけ取り上げて知ったかぶって能書きたれてるし最初からわかってるわw
お前はパーソライズされたYoutubeみて勘違いしてんのにそろそろ気付よ >>490
まぁ何かわからないが悔しいんだろうけど、100歩譲って俺がYoutubeオナニー野郎だとして
それをお前が今ここで悔し紛れにドヤ風で暴いたとしても
で、何なの?
で、何が言いたいの?
って感じなんだが
何かあるの? お前も好きに貼れよ
その貼り付けた楽曲をダセエと思っても個人の自由だし別に否定はしないよ
俺はね
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