0001考える名無しさん2022/08/05(金) 03:27:53.420 デイヴィッド・ベネター（David Benatar, 1966年12月8日 - ）は、 南アフリカケープタウン大学の哲学科長、教授 著書『生まれてこないほうが良かった 存在してしまうことの害悪 （Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence）』において 反出生主義（antinatalism）を擁護したことで最もよく知られている。 同書の主張によれば、誕生し存在するようになることは、存在者の感情の如何に よらず深刻な害悪であり、したがってこれ以上感覚を有する存在を生み出すことは 常に道徳的に誤っているという
ベネターは、痛みはそれ自体で悪しきものであるという論争の余地がない前提を もとに議論している。しかしながら、子どもに対する体罰や男児の割礼の擁護も 行っている（保護者の裁量にまかされる事柄だと彼は考えている）。 医療倫理学の分野で頻繁に引用される論文の著者であり、代表作に 「予防と児童虐待の間（Between Prophylaxis and Child Abuse）」 （『The American Journal of Bioethics』）や「胎児の痛み―― 胎児の痛みに関する混乱の終息に向けて（A Pain in the Fetus: Toward Ending Confusion about Fetal Pain）」（『Bioethics』）がある
0750考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 12:44:04.230>>748 Was it you who wrote a series of long responses? I sympathized with you. 0751考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 12:55:09.520>>750 Thanks 0752考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 19:32:49.870 Everyone is alive because they were born. There is no disadvantage to not being born. Live in an absurd world with only those who are born because of their parents' dangerous gamble.
Population decline? Good luck with robotics, don't ask anti-natalists to be responsible. 0753考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 20:59:35.210 This is my way of thinking. The idea that I don't want to have a baby because I feel sorry for the child is "weak anti-natalism". And "strong anti-natalism" is the idea that all births are evil and all people should not give birth. And "militant anti-natalism" is one that commands others not to give birth. The other is "childfree," which means not to have children for one's own comfort.
This thread seems to have a majority of "strong anti-natalists," but the idiot says that anti-natalism only makes sense if it is "militant anti-natalism". And it is so funny that they are against anti-natalism. Too stupid. 0754考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 21:34:39.660 By the way, I have written several articles on the comparison of wild and civilized people, and this idea was inspired by Rousseau. He has a sharp point of view and is an excellent philosopher. But alas, the idiotic critics of this thread have said,"That's your impression, isn't it?"You sound like Hiroyuki. 0755考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 22:01:07.660>>753 Continued. And "strong anti-natalism" is just a personal value. It doesn't matter if I judge all births to be evil, because I don't force others not to have children. But I do think all parents have done wrong. It's a personal thought, so why not? 0756考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 22:11:40.980 ecosystem is misandri bba 0757考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 22:40:37.690 "I want to be happy with my children.",Why don't you be happy on your own? Your kids won't necessarily be happy, and you might think, "I wish I hadn't had them." 0758考える名無しさん2022/08/17(水) 22:47:36.380 If a child is born incredibly unhappy, "Why is my child...?" I understand that feeling, but we can make a rational decision in advance that this may happen. I understand that feeling, but we can rationally determine in advance that this could happen. "It won't happen! I will make sure they are happy!" This judgment is nothing more than an assumption. 0759考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 03:52:43.170 Part9まで障害者さんがひたすら健常者の中傷してたとはな
ベネタースレ作ってやりたかった事がヘイト活動とか、そりゃあ論客も相手せず逃げるわな 0761考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 04:35:50.760 Even if mostly people disagree with an idea that conducts to antinatalism, it can't change present social trends in main developed countries. It's significant decline of birthrate. Also we need adequate controlled prevention for high-stakes of overpopulation. 0762考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 04:44:46.590>>761
US birth rate falls 4% to its lowest point ever
The downward trend in birth rates in the US has been seen throughout the world
The American birth rate fell for the sixth consecutive year in 2020, with the lowest number of babies born since 1979, according to a new report.Some 3.6 million babies were born in the US in 2020 - marking a 4% decline from the year before, found the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics.
The slump was seen across all recorded ethnicities and origins, according to the findings. The national picture mirrors a decline in births seen worldwide, a trend some experts say has been accelerated by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. 0763考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 04:47:41.180 "It's not worth reading," "Poems," "Diary," "Don't write here." If you make fun of others as much as you like like and get fired back, you will be a victim 0764考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 05:05:01.660 In the CDC report, demographers examined the country's general fertility rate, which compares the number of live births with the number of women considered to be of childbearing age - between 15 and 44 years old.
In 2020, the general fertility rate in the US was about 56 births per 1,000 women - the lowest rate on record and about half of what it was in the early 1960s.
The decline in birth rates was seen across all measured racial and ethnic groups. Births dropped by 4% among white, black and Latina women, 9% for Asian women, 3% for Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders and 7% for Native American and Alaska native women. 0765考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 05:38:56.350 What's the global picture?
The slowing US birth rate is echoed by worldwide trends.
While wealthy countries like Germany and Japan have seen slowing birth rates for some time, the same is now happening in middle-income countries as well, including Thailand and Brazil. Globally, the fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement levels - 2.1 births per woman - by 2070, according to a 2019 report from the UN.
By the end of this century, the report found, the world's population is projected to virtually stop growing for the first time in history. And a widely cited study published in the Lancet last year suggested this population peak would come even earlier - in 2064. 0766考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 05:39:29.910 Between 2020 and 2100, 90 countries are expected to lose population, including two-thirds of all countries and territories in Europe. According to the UN numbers, Africa is the only region in the world projected to have strong population growth for the rest of the 21st Century - mostly concentrated in sub-Saharan Africa.
Similar to trends in the US, the UN has linked falling fertility rates and population growth to gradual delays in childbearing among women. Though the mean age of childbearing varies widely throughout the world, overall increases will continue to lower fertility rates and global population growth in turn. 0767考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 05:55:05.980>>766 Considering worsen global warming,ethnic that can survive around severe global environment, I guess it's just only African people. 0768考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 05:57:10.020>>665 まさかこの子供丸出し恥さらし中二病文章を批評しろとシツコク言ってるのか？ 自己評価が高すぎてびびるわ、まじでガキなんだな おもしろいからこれからもベネタースレずっと立ててくれよな（爆笑）
>この感情の波は人間を翻弄し、解けない呪いのように苦しめる。 苦しいんだね、辛いよね（これでいいか？こんなお母さんみたいなレスが欲しいんか？ｗｗｗｗｗ） 0769考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 06:25:08.110>>768 Would you like to discuss in English,if you can? Because arguments in Japanese that have inclining to emotional anti-intellectual vain exchange like you. 0770考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 06:58:42.170>>768 Uh, that's exactly what one famous philosopher said... I made that excerpt because it's amazing that something written a few hundred years ago can be applied directly to the present day, and you can't understand any philosophical thought. Also, you should write in English. 0771考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 07:13:56.480>>760 You can think of the idiots and monkeys as words written just for you. 0772考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 07:27:49.490 If you write something philosophical issues in English, I know its needs additional efforts for most native Japanese. However,therefore I think Its has sufficient effects because it will reduce frequent futile posts and emotional response. 0773考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 07:44:56.920 他人のことを馬鹿だの猿だの罵るのに「障害者」って罵らないのは何故なんだい？
ベネタースレ立ててPart1からPart9まで延々と健常者への暴言まき散らしてた重複障害者さん？
ただの英語力不足を感情表現ができない事と混同している低知能障害者さん？
我田引水・権威大好き・責任逃れ・英語コンプ・税金泥棒の暴言癖障害者さん？ 0774考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 07:59:33.400 Why do you want to people call you handicapped? Are you crazy? 0775考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 08:02:14.680 He's sick. 0776考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 08:19:49.400 He's crazy Let's ignore him. 0777考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 08:22:16.210 子供奴隷スレの女もマヌケだなあれは
「子供が大事」と「健常者が憎い」では思想が全く違うのに
サイコパス障害者に都合良く操られてんのw 0778考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 10:14:45.250 Man's whole life is full of anguish. 0779考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 11:25:22.270 I think all of us would have experienced more or less something malicious aftermath and sorrow, but human beings hasn't get out of there fully yet. 0780考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 12:29:21.440 Mental illness is another form of suffering to live with. There is another victim in this thread and he seems to be having a very hard time. 0781考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 12:38:09.380 ecosystem is misandri bba. 0782考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 12:42:09.500 Please refrain from feeding the apes. 0783考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 12:44:03.200 lol 0784考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 12:53:08.110 So for now, I'm fine thank you 0785考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 13:07:05.090 This highbrow thread wouldn't suit for a reptilian brain. 0786考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 14:10:46.510 Part1～9スレ、1年以上に渡ってキチガイ障害者さんが健常者に粘着暴言吐いてたクソスレが何だって？
highbrow？ググったら「知的ぶった（軽蔑的に）」みたいなの出てきたけど？（大爆笑）
爬虫類？が何だって？障害者様は健常者にどんな暴言吐いても許されるのかい？
暴言に耐えかねた介護士さんの恨み買ってブスっと植松されても知らないよ？
ベネター棒による暴力大好きなキチガイ障害者さん？ベネター棒はどこいった？
DV失敗暴言厨の恥晒しキチガイ障害者さん？
復讐も満足にできないとか障害者以前の出来損ないの欠陥品かな？
罪のない障害者さんに失礼だとは思わないのかい？
猿と爬虫類とゴキブリ呼ばわりが大好きな暴言厨キチガイ障害者（ベネタースレ立て人）さん？ 0787考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 20:00:28.780 Well, as you can see, this lunatic is an unfortunate person who has had quite a difficult time in life, but, although it is inappropriate, I get some strange sense of relief when I see such a person. The presence of someone inferior to oneself makes one relatively happy. This is true. I believe Schopenhauer said something similar. 0788考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 20:06:44.620 You're awfully obsessed with the disabled, but I guess that's what it's all about... I pity them. 0789考える名無しさん2022/08/18(木) 22:20:19.070>>788 With secret pleasure... 0790考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 02:45:19.020 I ascribed his refusal for anti-natalism to lack of flexible intellectual. 0791考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 03:20:49.790 I'm sure controlled reason and uncontrolled grisly utterances don't occur simultaneously. 0792考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 04:27:12.100 In Tampa, Thomas Mantz, president of Feeding Tampa Bay, a food bank, has seen demand for food assistance climb 35-40% over the past six months.
“We all have to be concerned when people who are employed, and responsible, and a productive part of our communities cannot make ends meet,” said Mantz.
Virginia and Daniel Garcia, who care for three young children, are among those seeking help. Before the pandemic, Garcia stayed at home to look after the children while her husband worked 40 hours a week finishing drywall. But his hours were cut during the pandemic, and the family began turning to food banks to supplement their groceries.
Just as work returned, gas and grocery prices began to surge. And then a few months ago, Garcia, who is diabetic, got gangrene in his foot so badly that it almost had to be amputated, leaving him out of work. Garcia has applied for work at a school cafeteria, but for now she is using credit cards for expenses like back-to-school clothes and is counting every penny. 0793考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 04:27:47.180 Grocery costs “just jumped from one day to another,” Garcia said. “The bananas and the tomatoes, the meats — we’ve lowered our meats, our proteins, because it’s so expensive.”
The possibility of not having enough food looms ever-present for Garcia, who at times went without meals as a child and has sworn that her own children will not. 0794考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 04:28:22.510 Signals that rising prices are inflicting serious pain on families echo across the Sun Belt. In Miami, legal aid providers have seen a surge in eviction cases as moratoriums end and rents shoot higher. People with housing assistance vouchers are struggling to find apartments within the price range the government has set out, said Sean Rowley at Legal Services Miami, because so few affordable units are on the market and the government’s payments standards have not kept pace with rising rents.
“We’ve seen low-income households lose their vouchers because they cannot lease an apartment,” he said, explaining that if someone does not find housing in an allotted time, the benefit will expire. 0795考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 04:54:48.710 Like this ,this world is always full of abundant predicament. So anti-natalism will be corrected stance 0796考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 04:57:39.490>>795 × Like this ,this world is always full of many kinds' predicament. So anti-natalism necessarily will be correct stance. 0797考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 05:23:53.950 An endless global warming,pandemic and surging every living cost. I assume this mean no more need a human beings on the earth.Don't you think so? 0798考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 09:01:36.520 what's the truth? 0799考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 09:08:02.010 The extinction of the human being will be deemed in the global warming earth. 0800考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 09:28:13.920 適当なネガティブニュースもってきて最後に唐突に「だから反出生は正しい」とくっつけただけの手抜き作業ｗｗｗ
お前の手で貼り付けるんだよ、お前の手で書き込むんだよ「私は障害者さんではありません」という文章をよｗｗｗ 0802考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 09:48:00.480 Why are you so obsessed with the disabled? Do you have a complex? 0803考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 09:58:36.270 I deem him an ape 0804考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 10:43:26.380 This is our rigorous reality of today.For instance global warming,inflation, frequent massive flood,epidemic, food shortages,racism,poverty,surging energy and groceries cost. These are all flows that significant devastate and worsen the ecosystem. So you could say a person who is inclined to anti-natalism would have a point. 0805考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 12:39:21.320>>801 Did you get some kind of signal? You are schizophrenic,Go to the hospital soon. Sooo creepy🤮 0806考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 12:54:36.910 What if human being never had been existed, this ruined earth by humankind how was it now. 0807考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 12:58:37.600 I should have stayed a wild man. 0808考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 13:03:59.570 ○ We should have stayed wild man
✖I should have stayed wild man 0809考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 13:19:54.790 Let's say he has like a habit of ape. If so, it will inevitable he tries too many vain posts on this thread. I guess he has straightforward tendency in a bad sense. 0810考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 14:31:45.580 In some cases people would be better to reflect on its intrinsic value of anti-natalism. Because this world and society are surrounded by many unfavorable affairs all the time since beginning of human history. 0811考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:05:37.090 hi asshole 0812考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:16:49.440 so tight 0813考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:34:01.100 Now I belong to the earth 🌎 0814考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:42:01.940 earth hold as so tight asshole 0815考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:43:30.150 Now I am in a member of the earth. 0816考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 15:46:40.300>>814 You're a member of the apes. 0817考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 16:04:04.030>>811 I hope that you'll be able to dialogue as a human beings 0818考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 16:23:10.460>>812 Where on earth have you been all this time in the jungle? 0819考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 17:08:31.080 yeah 0820考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 17:19:09.880 we are the ape 0821考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 17:24:02.970 He has a received barrage of criticism. Because his attitude so impolite and rude ,it looks like a caveman. 0822考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 17:25:42.070 × >>821 He has received a barrage of criticism. Because his attitude so impolite and rude ,it looks like a caveman. 0823考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 17:35:29.670>>820 How does my idea grab you? 0824考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 19:03:38.640 which your fucking idea 0825考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 19:09:10.350 an apes story 0826考える名無しさん2022/08/19(金) 19:22:21.890 yeah！ ecosystem is misandri bba. 0827考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 03:54:57.700 What are you doing here? You're supposed to be in jangle. 0828考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 04:06:31.240 too easy 0829考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 04:20:38.830>>826 You're not supposed to be resident in this thread. 0830考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 04:52:43.200>>811 Where were you until now? You were supposed to be in the zoo at least an hour ago. You were supposed to being isolated by reason of harming other but were out and about. 0831考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 05:54:36.260 Tips : a full-blown airhead 0832考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 06:23:09.610 Some natalist pointed out Anti-natalist's faults, and some antinatalist vice versa. 0833考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 07:04:09.020 I think human being would be endangered species in the not too distant future. Because the ego of humankind to being stayed is an uncontrolled level.
Water stagnation occurs when water stops flowing.Stagnant water can be a major environmental hazard. 0834考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 10:05:34.900 暴言厨障害者さん（ベネタースレ立て人）ｗｗｗ
人を中傷することしか頭にない模様ｗｗｗ
こーんなゴミクズによく付き合ってんな反出生スレのモブ共はｗｗｗ
803 I deem him an ape
809 Let's say he has like a habit of ape.
816 You're a member of the apes.
817 I hope that you'll be able to dialogue as a human beings
818 Where on earth have you been all this time in the jungle?
821 it looks like a caveman.
825 an apes story
827 You're supposed to be in jangle.
830 You were supposed to be in the zoo at least an hour ago. 0835考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 13:13:13.420 fuck yes 0836考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 13:57:24.930>>834 If you're intent on coping such a vain posts, I have taken it as a sign of your weaknesses 0837考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 14:04:55.220 yap 0838考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 14:13:08.010 You had better attain to the mental age of discretion soon. 0839考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 14:30:23.230>>828 I'm caring digestible expression. 0840考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 15:10:05.950>>800 I think your understanding is so superficial interpretation. You may be lacking basic academic skills. 0841考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 15:10:10.680>>834 What's up? Get to the hospital as soon as possible.
You may not be a monkey, but you are a lunatic. People like you become JOKER under stress. 0842考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 15:37:03.510 He should receive proper medical care. He has serious personality problems. He is an example of the misery of this world. We should not have more people like this. 0843考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 15:44:19.400 The stress of being agitated on 5chan could turn you into a JOKER. Like Kato in Akihabara, the psychological damage is so great that it is not impossible. 0844考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 16:19:57.450 fucking peeper there 0845考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 16:36:39.180 We get poisoned by big industries, does not matter if it is the food industry putting Kilos of unecessary sugar in food to make you addicted, or tobacco industry which literally makes you inhale pesticides for money and we just take it, because fuck it. 0846考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 16:49:51.260 so fuck yourself yeah 0847考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 17:31:42.370 Tips : nemesis 0848考える名無しさん2022/08/20(土) 18:08:55.830 self-pleasure 0849考える名無しさん2022/08/21(日) 00:13:17.650 yeah untinatalist is fucking ape. 0850考える名無しさん2022/08/21(日) 00:13:42.920 hahaha
