Chat in English (英語で雑談)　part 204

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (GB 0Hf1-zvir) · 2017/11/22(水) 21:46:47.04

テンプレはめんどくさいから、>>2以下で誰かやってください。

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:43:43.48

*scratches head*

2017/11/25(土) 07:47:29.48

I'm going to be a pen someday.

I cannot type this sentence by voice typing because it is too unnatural.
It will automatically correct like this.

I am going to be a pain someday
I'm going to be up then someday
I'm going to be a pain someday

it's impossible to write lol

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:50:35.60

*eyes wide open*

2017/11/25(土) 07:55:35.50

"I will be going to hold a pen" would technically be grammatically correct
if "going" is used literally rather than as an auxiliary verb.
As in "I will be heading to another location to hold a pen."

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:58:48.73

* nods *

2017/11/25(土) 08:07:11.78

It's interesting.

I will be going to hold the pen

I can write this sentence by voice typing so it can be a correct sentence.
Voice typing is a good tool to know how to write naturally.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 08:07:22.88

Yawn

2017/11/25(土) 08:41:33.67

You must be in a place where there is little oxygen.

2017/11/25(土) 09:18:02.06

Or you must have so fat a body as not to be able to breathe enough.

2017/11/25(土) 09:41:26.57

>>187
Japan has apologized to china and provided your country about 45 billion dollars until now.
So, China also should stop invading Tibet, Uighur and Mongolia immediately and should
apologize them, give them an enormous amount of money, just as Japan did, please.

if that helps, Japan has been carring out ODA to China even now

2017/11/25(土) 10:48:06.47

>>175
the murder case on 2007 shouldnt be bullying or discrimination? you are a optimistic person!

2017/11/25(土) 10:56:24.62

>>187
You are stupid enough not be able to make out that human consciousness toward" what is good and what is bad" has changed in accordance with times.
Nowadays, we are liveing in a time when such a concept as " humanity" is spreading all over the world.
So those who commit crimes agianst humanity should be severely punished.
On the other hand, the time when Japan advanced into China is so-called an era of "imperialism"
One of the characteristics of this era is, as it were, the survival of the fittest, which means the strong prey on the weak.
You should not evaluate historical facts on the basis of modern values where you stand on.

**206** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 11:05:50.65

correction make out →　understand

2017/11/25(土) 12:31:50.97

>>204
I don't think he's Chinese. The Chinese are generally smarter than this retard.

2017/11/25(土) 12:36:51.84

The 5 words japanese people can't pronounce properly.

forever, shake it out, get out, world, hurt

2017/11/25(土) 12:57:46.10

>>187
Millions of Chinese?? Why do you Chinese like to forge lies concerning numerals? Huh?
First of all, you should learn historical facts sincerely and should not exploit them for the purpose of gaining political benefits.
The so-called Nanjing masscare is a typical example of your being a liar.
How could the Japanese military kill three hundred thousand Chinese when the population of Nanjing city at that time were approximately two hundred thousand ? Huh?

Although we are living in a time when fundamental human rights should be thoroughly respected, only China is invading neighboring countries and regions in an anachronistic manner.
In the couse of time,your contry will be ostracized from internatinal comminity. I

2017/11/25(土) 13:20:26.66

whatever you say, I set him up as a Chinese.
That's because I just wanted to practice English writing. lol

2017/11/25(土) 13:32:29.09

Hey! Let's talk about Final Fantasy!
Where has jook gone! Come back here!

2017/11/25(土) 13:37:33.00

>>208
i know he is chinese
because i have argued about this kind of subject against many chinese on the internet
and every one of them said just the same thing every time as if they had
somehing like a list of potential Q & A on this subject for defending themselves

2017/11/25(土) 13:58:14.74

Chinks are Tibetan murderers. They need to be stopped!

2017/11/25(土) 14:08:43.86

Vicious spiral

China is afraid of Japan
Japan is afraid of North Korea
North Korea is afraid of South Korea
South korea is afraid of China

2017/11/25(土) 14:22:40.39

>>213
But this one is not Chinese. I'm a lot better at this kind of guessing than you, so you should shut up and listen to my verdict.

2017/11/25(土) 14:46:43.15

>>215
I don't think China is afraid of Japan.
I don't think Japan is afraid of North Korea.
Don't know about South Korea.

2017/11/25(土) 15:12:07.58

Forever:
You have to bite your lower lip slightly when prononceing f-sound and v-sound. As for r-sound, I've learned you have to pull your tongue to the back of your mouth, not roll it up.

Shake it out: E-sound is omitted. The former t-sound turns into soft d-sound or r-sound while the latter t-sound is omitted.

Get it out: the former t-sound turns into soft d-sound or r-sound. The latter t-sound is omitted.

World: l-sound before a consonant is called " dark L ", whose sound is similar to "u".

**218** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 15:16:10.90

correction get it out →　get out

**218** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 15:23:35.89

correction bite the lower lip with your upper front teeth.

2017/11/25(土) 15:32:57.98

Thanks!!!!!!

2017/11/25(土) 16:11:08.46

Communist chinks: They need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/25(土) 16:37:26.37

Retard: "I hate bullying!"

-China is bullying Tibet.
-Japan bullied China in the past.
-Therefore, I, a Japanese, should not accuse China of the ongoing bullying. Fuck white bullies, but let's kiss China's ass, they got money and power.

I think a lot of the problems in today's world are caused by this kind of retard logic.

2017/11/25(土) 17:11:22.65

Many people attack China's human rights problems, but I don't care about those matters.
I don't care if millions of Chinese people get killed in China at the hands of the communist party. It's their history.
China just needs to listen to the Dalai Lama and his people and do what ought to be done.
High level autonomy is what they have been wanting, and no more than that, if I'm not mistaken.

2017/11/25(土) 18:02:34.12

A few years ago, I watched some documentary about reviving Buddhism in China. They seemed to be great people.
I think east asians go wrong when they throw away Buddhism. Koreans have become ill because they threw it away in the 17th century or something.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 18:32:02.27

Mom. As shown, I totally outsmarted all of them this morning. I had a blast.
ー Naughty Naughty ー

2017/11/25(土) 19:16:20.42

>>225
17th?
I guess it's after the world war 2.
Anyway I think your idea is correct.

But,India throw B away and making success.

2017/11/25(土) 20:24:30.60

Chat in English 英語で雑談 Ver:Q and A PART1
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1511609018/

2017/11/25(土) 21:12:43.82

>>227
Korea practically quit Buddhism in the 15th century or something and went full Confucianist, I think.
Also, people think Indians are asians, but actually they are like Iranian-Europeans or something.

2017/11/25(土) 21:25:17.28

I don't know how much you guys use a dictionary when you write your posts, but from my fluent
perspective you all seem to speak really good English.
Maybe you've heard of the habit a lot of Japanese people have of saying that a non-native speaker
can speak really good Japanese if they can speak it at all, even just basic phrases with a thick accent,
but as someone who's personally tired of getting compliments like that in spite of how bad I know my
Japanese actually is, I really do think you guys are doing a great job.
Keep it up. I'm cheering for you.

2017/11/25(土) 21:33:05.02

These imflammable topics are not suitable here.
Because you will likely be embroiled in quarrels and just keep writing unproductive things.
Furthermore, it is waste of time for most people to read these layman's political views.
If you wanna talk about histrical issues, create a new thread.

2017/11/25(土) 21:38:27.28

Asking this question is kinda rude,but I’m curious about your occupation and age.
I mean I wanna know what kind of people there are,and speak English really fluently.
Sometimes I wonder some people aren’t Japanese because of their natural English sentences.

2017/11/25(土) 21:42:56.95

>>232
I don't think that's rude to ask. Seems perfectly fine to me.
Although I'm not Japanese, and I've been speaking English fluently
for several years so I probably don't count. My fluency has been getting
a little worse lately since I spend a lot of time reading, thinking, and speaking
Japanese, so I'm getting a little rusty at articulating myself in English as good
as I used to.

2017/11/25(土) 21:48:39.39

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 21:49:27.81

>>232
If you tell me about you, I will share my information with you

2017/11/25(土) 21:56:26.93

>>232
And what kind of person are you?
You're quit fluent at least when taking down.

2017/11/25(土) 22:06:19.35

I've been looking forward to reading this swedish guy's posts lately because I learn a lot from them.

2017/11/25(土) 22:12:11.15

>>230
I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 22:32:17.45

I hope this brilliant swedish guy will make a handle name and show it whenever he writes here. All his posts are extremely valuable.

2017/11/25(土) 22:39:41.29

I can't quite tell if you two are being sarcastic or if you genuinely enjoy my posts.
I could make a handle name if you want, but I really don't believe I contribute anything
of value enough to justify putting on a name.
Sure, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have, but I'm not sure if a name is required for that.

2017/11/25(土) 22:40:01.95

I don’t like his writings because everything seems snobbish and condescending af...

2017/11/25(土) 22:47:40.67

What about it is condescending? The only condescending or snobbish thing I can recall saying
is me repeating that I speak English fluently, but it's not like I'm trying to brag when I say that.
If you were to tell me "I speak Japanese fluently and think so and so" then I don't see anything
snobbish about that if it's relevant to the conversation.

2017/11/25(土) 23:46:34.91

You don't have to sweat the small stuff. Just ignore >>241's remarks!
It can't be helped. " So many men, so many minds", as the saying goes.

2017/11/25(土) 23:57:22.46

↑
A typical white ass licker

2017/11/26(日) 00:02:26.15

>>244
Then, what are you?

2017/11/26(日) 00:15:36.40

i placed an order with amazon for an apple's product though it is not a high-end model.
it's been quite a while since i ordered with them the last time,
and i was stunned to know that now i can pick up the goods at selected convenience stores near my house 7/24...!

2017/11/26(日) 00:24:56.63

You’re living in the past?

2017/11/26(日) 01:12:12.67

>>237
Where is the swedish guy?
What are you getting at?

2017/11/26(日) 01:31:26.47

>>248
It was just my guess from a couple of posts which had had certain characteristics peculiar to his writing

2017/11/26(日) 01:35:52.33

Well, it is me. I'm the Swedish guy.
I think other than me there are probably only two other fluent English speakers
that visit this thread.

2017/11/26(日) 01:37:00.30

Bragging again? So white...

2017/11/26(日) 02:38:15.09

>>212
Which one of the series is the best for you?
I like 7 a lot.

I’ve been into Pocket Camp from どうぶつの森 lately since it released 4 days ago though.
It seems not to have ガチャ feature, which give you random items.
I heard that Hawaii started a talk whether ’loot boxes’ are gambling or not.

2017/11/26(日) 14:05:20.14

I posted as 232 yesterday and i was sorry to forget putting my information down.
I’m 22years old Japanese student and I enrolled English conversation school.
I want to improve my English skills not only speaking but also writing.
I think thinking things in English even in your daily life is really effective so I’m here to chat with you guys :)

2017/11/26(日) 15:28:12.48

>>253
Amyway thinking in english possible for
japanese natives?

2017/11/26(日) 15:59:07.53

>>254
Personally,yes.
I think translating my native language into other languages what I wanna learn makes some pauses or hesitation when I speak.
But of course,it’s really difficult to think complicated things or something now

2017/11/26(日) 16:02:46.61

As for me, the more things or topics are complicated, the more likely I think them in Japanese first and then literally translate them into English.
For this reason, I tend to make a lot of English sentences with an abstract noun （S) ＋ to be(V) ＋　an adjecttive (C).

**256** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:10:54.07

If you let me, I'd like to explain about what I mentioned above more specifically.
Please take a look at the following two sentences.
(1) My eyesight is poor
(2) I have poor eyesight.
I've learned a book that we Japanese are prone to compose a sentence like (1)
while most native speakers of English would be likely to say (2)

**257** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:18:26.80

correction learned →　learned from

2017/11/26(日) 17:28:20.68

Both of those sentences are fine, but the tone is somewhat different between the two. "My eyesight is poor" sounds like
a reason or explanation for something (imagine you were to put a し at the end of that sentence) or that you're specifically
focusing on your eyesight, like if a doctor asked you "do you have any physical defects or disabilities?" then it seems like
that sentence would fit right in as an answer. It also feels a little more formal than the second sentence, but maybe that's
just me, and maybe it's just because it admittedly does sound less like what a native would say.

Although to be honest, if someone were to say either to me and I don't know anything about them, I wouldn't think they're
not a native for posting the first sentence, and I'd only even really think about it in a scenario like this when you have 2
sentences that mean the same thing but have slightly different tones to them.

Either way, you could say either sentence and there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. The tone might be slightly different,
but tone and nuance in language is something you won't learn and fully grasp until you're nearly fluent, and at that point it's
all about nailing that last part (tone and nuance) to become a fully fledged fluent speaker.

2017/11/26(日) 17:35:09.97

too long

2017/11/26(日) 17:40:53.08

>>255
I think japanese english learner shouldn't
think this kind of issue over and over coz that have no correct answer.
Conversation in english thinks it's ok if the ones in the coversation are able to give and take of information.

2017/11/26(日) 17:56:39.26

>>260
Agreed

2017/11/26(日) 18:06:19.61

>>254
It's definitely possible but it would take long time to be actually able to do so
for a person like me who has a mediocre talent in learning languages.

2017/11/26(日) 18:09:14.09

>>263
Um...
But,does english need such ability for getting better?

2017/11/26(日) 18:12:22.98

How are you supposed to get better at a language if you can't think in the language?
It takes time, but it is necessary to become fluent.

2017/11/26(日) 18:31:49.29

By the way, would you like a cup of tea?

2017/11/26(日) 19:13:23.39

No.

2017/11/26(日) 19:24:19.49

>>264
No. If you constantly work on, your fluency in english will improve, but
what I meant was there are people who can improve faster than others.
And, the level of fluency I assume is quite high, like working in an environment
where the primary language is English, and not having any major difficulties in
written/oral communications.

2017/11/26(日) 19:29:28.60

>>268
what are you talking about?
stay calm

2017/11/26(日) 20:17:25.59

I would prefer coffee.
Recently, it is discovered that drinking coffee has some health benefits.

By the way, I don't what "thiking in English" actually means,
but it is beneficial to keep writing or saying something from the bottom of your heart.
Language is there to convey your thought, thus, keep doing this inevitably lead you to the point that "thinking in English".

2017/11/26(日) 20:23:04.28

Before complaining to him, you guys should be ashmed of yourself.
Such responses show how little you read materials concerning English on a daily basis. lol

2017/11/26(日) 20:23:06.11

This is kind of abstract thinking, so my massage is that you keep writing what you want.
I'm gonna do same thing.

2017/11/26(日) 20:35:13.90

>>265
I think getting your sense of direction better is able to be in place of thinking in english offcourse for speak english fluentry.

2017/11/26(日) 20:39:21.94

>>271
You should be ashamed of youself because you even can’t spell “ashmed” correctly lololol

2017/11/26(日) 20:48:58.84

you even can't spell
you can't even spell

Which order is correct?

2017/11/26(日) 20:55:45.65

Both are okay

2017/11/26(日) 21:01:39.83

Thanks.
And, if it would be

Even you can't spell,

the meaning would be different from the both above, right?

2017/11/26(日) 21:06:05.86

>>275
The latter.

2017/11/26(日) 21:10:55.85

>>272
Who is "him"? Me?

2017/11/26(日) 21:13:36.91

>>278
If you are correct, >>274 is gonna be a huge asshole cuz he pointed out other's mistake

2017/11/26(日) 21:22:34.94

Pointing out mistakes make me an asshole? Why?

2017/11/26(日) 21:27:45.59

Fussing over small mistakes when you're not fluent or close to being fluent is pointless.

2017/11/26(日) 21:28:46.55

You don't even know why? Then you have an answer.

2017/11/26(日) 21:30:48.60

>>274
That's not so important.

2017/11/26(日) 21:34:03.59

>>266
Tea break.

2017/11/26(日) 21:35:38.37

>>281
Continue the conversation in other site!

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/26(日) 22:51:40.61

As far as I know, the person has never revealed the gender, so you should avoid assuming one way or the other.

I completly agree that pointing out trival grammatical mistakes are useless or even detrimental,
because people learn a lot from mistakes.
This thread should be the place to write freely without fear of being graded by someone.
There are few places in this society where any kind of mistakes are allowed, but that is not a good thing especially regarding to learning language.

2017/11/26(日) 23:10:21.56

>>287
> because people learn a lot from mistakes.
In that case, isn't it necessary for someone to point out these mistakes
(at least if he does it politely unlike the so-called axxhole above)?
Otherwise, you don't realize that you've made mistakes.

2017/11/26(日) 23:20:12.53

In any case, I don't think it necessary to point out these mistakes on this thread.
This is not a thread for that.
If you need any feedback on your writing, you can find more suitable places.
It is evident from our writing that we are non-native writers
who are not really qualified to point out others' mistakes.
Also, to me this is a thread for posting random thoughts without
worrying too much about getting nitpicked in my writing.
(When I post things on SNS, I took much more time even if the post is short).

2017/11/26(日) 23:23:27.86

I think you could point out someone's mistakes if the other person asks for it.
Alternatively, if you're going to point out someone's mistakes without them asking for it,
you should at least be polite about it. Being nice goes a long way.

2017/11/26(日) 23:24:09.66

>>288
Yes, everyone want to be corrected gently and politely.
I have refered to the person who "attacks" other's mistakes.

2017/11/26(日) 23:43:17.54

>>291
everyone wants *

....lol

2017/11/26(日) 23:52:31.61

I forget so often where I put my grasses.
It's hard to find it without it.

2017/11/27(月) 00:11:32.05

If you want to have your english corrected, you can describe to that effect in advance.
If no one requests correction, then no one should point out others writing. You got it?