Chat in English (英語で雑談)　part 204

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (GB 0Hf1-zvir) · 2017/11/22(水) 21:46:47.04

テンプレはめんどくさいから、>>2以下で誰かやってください。

2017/11/25(土) 21:33:05.02

These imflammable topics are not suitable here.
Because you will likely be embroiled in quarrels and just keep writing unproductive things.
Furthermore, it is waste of time for most people to read these layman's political views.
If you wanna talk about histrical issues, create a new thread.

2017/11/25(土) 21:38:27.28

Asking this question is kinda rude,but I’m curious about your occupation and age.
I mean I wanna know what kind of people there are,and speak English really fluently.
Sometimes I wonder some people aren’t Japanese because of their natural English sentences.

2017/11/25(土) 21:42:56.95

>>232
I don't think that's rude to ask. Seems perfectly fine to me.
Although I'm not Japanese, and I've been speaking English fluently
for several years so I probably don't count. My fluency has been getting
a little worse lately since I spend a lot of time reading, thinking, and speaking
Japanese, so I'm getting a little rusty at articulating myself in English as good
as I used to.

2017/11/25(土) 21:48:39.39

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 21:49:27.81

>>232
If you tell me about you, I will share my information with you

2017/11/25(土) 21:56:26.93

>>232
And what kind of person are you?
You're quit fluent at least when taking down.

2017/11/25(土) 22:06:19.35

I've been looking forward to reading this swedish guy's posts lately because I learn a lot from them.

2017/11/25(土) 22:12:11.15

>>230
I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 22:32:17.45

I hope this brilliant swedish guy will make a handle name and show it whenever he writes here. All his posts are extremely valuable.

2017/11/25(土) 22:39:41.29

I can't quite tell if you two are being sarcastic or if you genuinely enjoy my posts.
I could make a handle name if you want, but I really don't believe I contribute anything
of value enough to justify putting on a name.
Sure, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have, but I'm not sure if a name is required for that.

2017/11/25(土) 22:40:01.95

I don’t like his writings because everything seems snobbish and condescending af...

2017/11/25(土) 22:47:40.67

What about it is condescending? The only condescending or snobbish thing I can recall saying
is me repeating that I speak English fluently, but it's not like I'm trying to brag when I say that.
If you were to tell me "I speak Japanese fluently and think so and so" then I don't see anything
snobbish about that if it's relevant to the conversation.

2017/11/25(土) 23:46:34.91

You don't have to sweat the small stuff. Just ignore >>241's remarks!
It can't be helped. " So many men, so many minds", as the saying goes.

2017/11/25(土) 23:57:22.46

↑
A typical white ass licker

2017/11/26(日) 00:02:26.15

>>244
Then, what are you?

2017/11/26(日) 00:15:36.40

i placed an order with amazon for an apple's product though it is not a high-end model.
it's been quite a while since i ordered with them the last time,
and i was stunned to know that now i can pick up the goods at selected convenience stores near my house 7/24...!

2017/11/26(日) 00:24:56.63

You’re living in the past?

2017/11/26(日) 01:12:12.67

>>237
Where is the swedish guy?
What are you getting at?

2017/11/26(日) 01:31:26.47

>>248
It was just my guess from a couple of posts which had had certain characteristics peculiar to his writing

2017/11/26(日) 01:35:52.33

Well, it is me. I'm the Swedish guy.
I think other than me there are probably only two other fluent English speakers
that visit this thread.

2017/11/26(日) 01:37:00.30

Bragging again? So white...

2017/11/26(日) 02:38:15.09

>>212
Which one of the series is the best for you?
I like 7 a lot.

I’ve been into Pocket Camp from どうぶつの森 lately since it released 4 days ago though.
It seems not to have ガチャ feature, which give you random items.
I heard that Hawaii started a talk whether ’loot boxes’ are gambling or not.

2017/11/26(日) 14:05:20.14

I posted as 232 yesterday and i was sorry to forget putting my information down.
I’m 22years old Japanese student and I enrolled English conversation school.
I want to improve my English skills not only speaking but also writing.
I think thinking things in English even in your daily life is really effective so I’m here to chat with you guys :)

2017/11/26(日) 15:28:12.48

>>253
Amyway thinking in english possible for
japanese natives?

2017/11/26(日) 15:59:07.53

>>254
Personally,yes.
I think translating my native language into other languages what I wanna learn makes some pauses or hesitation when I speak.
But of course,it’s really difficult to think complicated things or something now

2017/11/26(日) 16:02:46.61

As for me, the more things or topics are complicated, the more likely I think them in Japanese first and then literally translate them into English.
For this reason, I tend to make a lot of English sentences with an abstract noun （S) ＋ to be(V) ＋　an adjecttive (C).

**256** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:10:54.07

If you let me, I'd like to explain about what I mentioned above more specifically.
Please take a look at the following two sentences.
(1) My eyesight is poor
(2) I have poor eyesight.
I've learned a book that we Japanese are prone to compose a sentence like (1)
while most native speakers of English would be likely to say (2)

**257** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:18:26.80

correction learned →　learned from

2017/11/26(日) 17:28:20.68

Both of those sentences are fine, but the tone is somewhat different between the two. "My eyesight is poor" sounds like
a reason or explanation for something (imagine you were to put a し at the end of that sentence) or that you're specifically
focusing on your eyesight, like if a doctor asked you "do you have any physical defects or disabilities?" then it seems like
that sentence would fit right in as an answer. It also feels a little more formal than the second sentence, but maybe that's
just me, and maybe it's just because it admittedly does sound less like what a native would say.

Although to be honest, if someone were to say either to me and I don't know anything about them, I wouldn't think they're
not a native for posting the first sentence, and I'd only even really think about it in a scenario like this when you have 2
sentences that mean the same thing but have slightly different tones to them.

Either way, you could say either sentence and there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. The tone might be slightly different,
but tone and nuance in language is something you won't learn and fully grasp until you're nearly fluent, and at that point it's
all about nailing that last part (tone and nuance) to become a fully fledged fluent speaker.

2017/11/26(日) 17:35:09.97

too long

2017/11/26(日) 17:40:53.08

>>255
I think japanese english learner shouldn't
think this kind of issue over and over coz that have no correct answer.
Conversation in english thinks it's ok if the ones in the coversation are able to give and take of information.

2017/11/26(日) 17:56:39.26

>>260
Agreed

2017/11/26(日) 18:06:19.61

>>254
It's definitely possible but it would take long time to be actually able to do so
for a person like me who has a mediocre talent in learning languages.

2017/11/26(日) 18:09:14.09

>>263
Um...
But,does english need such ability for getting better?

2017/11/26(日) 18:12:22.98

How are you supposed to get better at a language if you can't think in the language?
It takes time, but it is necessary to become fluent.

2017/11/26(日) 18:31:49.29

By the way, would you like a cup of tea?

2017/11/26(日) 19:13:23.39

No.

2017/11/26(日) 19:24:19.49

>>264
No. If you constantly work on, your fluency in english will improve, but
what I meant was there are people who can improve faster than others.
And, the level of fluency I assume is quite high, like working in an environment
where the primary language is English, and not having any major difficulties in
written/oral communications.

2017/11/26(日) 19:29:28.60

>>268
what are you talking about?
stay calm

2017/11/26(日) 20:17:25.59

I would prefer coffee.
Recently, it is discovered that drinking coffee has some health benefits.

By the way, I don't what "thiking in English" actually means,
but it is beneficial to keep writing or saying something from the bottom of your heart.
Language is there to convey your thought, thus, keep doing this inevitably lead you to the point that "thinking in English".

2017/11/26(日) 20:23:04.28

Before complaining to him, you guys should be ashmed of yourself.
Such responses show how little you read materials concerning English on a daily basis. lol

2017/11/26(日) 20:23:06.11

This is kind of abstract thinking, so my massage is that you keep writing what you want.
I'm gonna do same thing.

2017/11/26(日) 20:35:13.90

>>265
I think getting your sense of direction better is able to be in place of thinking in english offcourse for speak english fluentry.

2017/11/26(日) 20:39:21.94

>>271
You should be ashamed of youself because you even can’t spell “ashmed” correctly lololol

2017/11/26(日) 20:48:58.84

you even can't spell
you can't even spell

Which order is correct?

2017/11/26(日) 20:55:45.65

Both are okay

2017/11/26(日) 21:01:39.83

Thanks.
And, if it would be

Even you can't spell,

the meaning would be different from the both above, right?

2017/11/26(日) 21:06:05.86

>>275
The latter.

2017/11/26(日) 21:10:55.85

>>272
Who is "him"? Me?

2017/11/26(日) 21:13:36.91

>>278
If you are correct, >>274 is gonna be a huge asshole cuz he pointed out other's mistake

2017/11/26(日) 21:22:34.94

Pointing out mistakes make me an asshole? Why?

2017/11/26(日) 21:27:45.59

Fussing over small mistakes when you're not fluent or close to being fluent is pointless.

2017/11/26(日) 21:28:46.55

You don't even know why? Then you have an answer.

2017/11/26(日) 21:30:48.60

>>274
That's not so important.

2017/11/26(日) 21:34:03.59

>>266
Tea break.

2017/11/26(日) 21:35:38.37

>>281
Continue the conversation in other site!

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/26(日) 22:51:40.61

As far as I know, the person has never revealed the gender, so you should avoid assuming one way or the other.

I completly agree that pointing out trival grammatical mistakes are useless or even detrimental,
because people learn a lot from mistakes.
This thread should be the place to write freely without fear of being graded by someone.
There are few places in this society where any kind of mistakes are allowed, but that is not a good thing especially regarding to learning language.

2017/11/26(日) 23:10:21.56

>>287
> because people learn a lot from mistakes.
In that case, isn't it necessary for someone to point out these mistakes
(at least if he does it politely unlike the so-called axxhole above)?
Otherwise, you don't realize that you've made mistakes.

2017/11/26(日) 23:20:12.53

In any case, I don't think it necessary to point out these mistakes on this thread.
This is not a thread for that.
If you need any feedback on your writing, you can find more suitable places.
It is evident from our writing that we are non-native writers
who are not really qualified to point out others' mistakes.
Also, to me this is a thread for posting random thoughts without
worrying too much about getting nitpicked in my writing.
(When I post things on SNS, I took much more time even if the post is short).

2017/11/26(日) 23:23:27.86

I think you could point out someone's mistakes if the other person asks for it.
Alternatively, if you're going to point out someone's mistakes without them asking for it,
you should at least be polite about it. Being nice goes a long way.

2017/11/26(日) 23:24:09.66

>>288
Yes, everyone want to be corrected gently and politely.
I have refered to the person who "attacks" other's mistakes.

2017/11/26(日) 23:43:17.54

>>291
everyone wants *

....lol

2017/11/26(日) 23:52:31.61

I forget so often where I put my grasses.
It's hard to find it without it.

2017/11/27(月) 00:11:32.05

If you want to have your english corrected, you can describe to that effect in advance.
If no one requests correction, then no one should point out others writing. You got it?

2017/11/27(月) 01:13:51.78

>>294
You must need it..

2017/11/27(月) 01:34:18.04

>>292
Is "lol" still a thing people use?
I just don't know as I don't use such retarded expressions.

2017/11/27(月) 01:37:26.93

>>293
Maybe you are writing it intentionally but
"put my grasses" gave me a smile.

2017/11/27(月) 02:18:34.82

>>296
Plenty of people say "lol." It's mostly used sarcastically or pessimistically these days, though.
For example: "I'm not gonna do what you say lol" or "yeah sure you can get a girlfriend lol."

2017/11/27(月) 03:52:09.76

>>298
I see.
Since the introduction of emoji
we use these expressions much less often, I guess.

What is the plural for emoji is also a point of controversy for geeks.
I like emoji as a prural form of emoji than emojis,
which sounds unnatural to my native japanese ears.
"Sushis" is not acceptable either.

2017/11/27(月) 03:57:05.21

i feel loneliness

2017/11/27(月) 04:02:41.11

>>292
I've never gave you permission to correct my sentence lol.
There is no time to deal with a person like you.

2017/11/27(月) 07:41:35.01

>>297
then how he has had to say instead of "put"?

2017/11/27(月) 07:44:57.83

>>292
Shut your pie hole

2017/11/27(月) 08:05:03.22

>>303
the guy is the sae old ひねくれもの

2017/11/27(月) 08:10:12.45

--People I hate #1--
•People who point out other's mistake suddenly, and try to make you feel like damn ass

2017/11/27(月) 08:19:22.74

the same old*
sorry, i am typing lying on my bed due to 寒さ　ヾ(･ω･｡*)

2017/11/27(月) 08:52:52.83

Get up right now and go for work like a slave.

2017/11/27(月) 09:07:13.53

sorry, i live a leisurely life unlike you♪～(´ε｀ )

2017/11/27(月) 17:56:13.39

Good morning, everyone.
I hope you all have a good day today.
God bless you all.

2017/11/27(月) 19:17:20.57

>>309
Thanks for your nice greeting. It's in the evening over here, though.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0H6b-t4k1) · 2017/11/27(月) 19:38:44.32

>>309
What religion are you in?
Just in case.

2017/11/27(月) 19:44:01.15

>>311
I'm an atheist but not because I'm anti-god or anything, just because I don't really believe in any deities.
Staunch atheists who go out of their way to argue against religion and saying that god is a ridiculous concept
really piss me off.
I just said "God bless you all" because usually that's a nice thing to say here in the west.

2017/11/27(月) 19:45:52.95

Generally, people wish for only good days although life is made up of verious kinds of days such as nice days, so-so days, bad days hard days.
So, it might be important for you how you should spend the days you don't wish for.
You could be a master of life if you could enjoy even unlucky days.

2017/11/27(月) 19:57:23.38

On another note, what do you all think is the hardest part about studying English?
The radically different pronunciation? The spelling of words? The different grammar? Understanding real (as in, outside of textbooks) sentences?
I'm actually really curious about what Japanese people think of English, since there doesn't seem to be that many
Japanese people that are actively learning it, and rarely do you get to hear what they think of it.
And on the contrary, what do you think is the easiest part of the language? Especially in contrast to Japanese.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0H6b-t4k1) · 2017/11/27(月) 20:16:33.97

>>312
I am not trying to get on your nurve.
Don't get me wrong.
Thank you for your God bless!

This thread has a lot of gheeks.So...

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0H6b-t4k1) · 2017/11/27(月) 20:35:27.53

>>304
It's called purverse.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0H6b-t4k1) · 2017/11/27(月) 21:02:32.30

>>313
And do you have some knack of spending
that kind of no so fun days?
Interesting.

2017/11/27(月) 22:42:02.51

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/27(月) 23:07:17.77

>>315
You mean “geeks”?

You are welcome ;))

Lol

2017/11/27(月) 23:09:45.17

>>313
I think comedians have historically made great remarks
with regard to how you should face those "bad" days.

"Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but a comedy in long-shot",
a quote from Chaplin,
and the song "Always look on the bright side of life" from Monty Python
are some of my personal favorites.

The key, obviously, is to focus on what really matters in the long run.
If we could focus solely on the big picture, we would realize that
virtually all the difficulties we face everyday end up to be trivial ones.

2017/11/27(月) 23:13:05.28

my gymnic ball used as chair for PC desk splitted today ;;
my weight is over 100kg but not so heavy thinking that the ball made in Italy. ><

2017/11/27(月) 23:16:51.75

You fatty :)

2017/11/27(月) 23:22:49.68

now im fixing the ball by cemedine super x2..

2017/11/28(火) 00:01:02.33

With all due respect to the superness of the great Cemedine,
it may not be super enough to fix a balance ball...
I simply cannot imagine that it would restore the flexibility needed.

2017/11/28(火) 00:52:16.84

>>320
What a fantastic idea it is!
Moty paython's song.I know that and like it.
The problem we should solve is
how could get the long shot.

2017/11/28(火) 00:53:58.48

>>320
And What a person like a dictionary you are!....Thanx.

2017/11/28(火) 01:01:03.34

Is there anyone who has been divorced in your life?

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0H7b-t4k1) · 2017/11/28(火) 01:42:00.03

>>327
What's the story?

**jook** ◆jook7sIb7g (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ bfd1-sSls) · 2017/11/28(火) 02:14:36.70

Hi folks! Sorry, I can't go back through everything I missed for 4 days but if anyone
was looking for me, please let me know!

>>321
Did you fall?

2017/11/28(火) 02:26:34.30

>>329
It would seem that >>212-san was looking for you.