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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 204
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0026名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07be-tbal)
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2017/11/23(木) 11:44:01.48ID:cV+3bCef0
i see. this pie is famous at "kiki's delivery service".
0033名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 7fcf-sSls)
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2017/11/23(木) 12:55:33.09ID:wYQVUIRE0
nande eigode shaberana akannen
0034名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/23(木) 12:59:53.69ID:Zq+txt+G0
Because this is an english only thread
0040名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/23(木) 16:52:44.65ID:+i4hQSof0
>>23
I was considering finding a language partner on HelloTalk or italki or something similar
but decided against it. There are just too many リア充 there and the chances of finding
a decent person are so small that it's not worth going through hundreds of people to
meet someone who's actually interested in me helping them with English in return for them
helping me with my Japanese.
0041名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ a74d-h3cN)
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2017/11/23(木) 18:08:35.18ID:58nhMKvb0
I used to sign up for laung 8, where there were a lot of Japanese who wanted to learn English.
You might want to join it. They would correct your Japanese essays soon after you post them there.
That is beacuse the balance between supply and demand has collapsed.
I mean a lot of Japanese who want to learn English v.s. a few of native speakers who learn Japanese.
Did I make myself understood? Sorry for my poor English!!
0042名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/23(木) 18:30:56.31ID:+i4hQSof0
>>41
Your English was nearly flawless so I understood you without any problems.
The thing about those sites is that I don't really write essays or diary entries, so they wouldn't be that useful to me.
While I'm sure there are tons of natives who would be happy to correct my writing, most of my language-related
questions are more about the usage or nuances of words, or the meanings of words I can't quite understand.
0043名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ a74d-h3cN)
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2017/11/23(木) 18:31:11.93ID:58nhMKvb0
Hi, dude!
Are you happy now?
Oh, you don't have to make believe to be happy in front of me.
You see, we are bosom friends. So you can tell me anything and everything when you have sad things.
I'm ready to console you anytime.
0044名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ a74d-h3cN)
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2017/11/23(木) 18:44:54.48ID:58nhMKvb0
>>42
You must be an advanced learner of Japanese.
Then, you have to look for a person who is fluent in both English and Japanese.
Hmm...It's a difficult question
0046名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ a74d-h3cN)
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2017/11/23(木) 19:05:20.09ID:58nhMKvb0
>>45
Yeah, you can say that again! I had the same experiences as yours!
0049名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5fa3-KEHB)
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2017/11/23(木) 19:58:29.91ID:FT9mwTSz0
It'cold as if it' already in February.
Summer is getting hotter,but winter seems to be colder than before.
This assumption might be wrong because we have less snow than before.
Still, it's cold enogh to complain, "It's still Nobember isn't" it?"
In the past we have had four seasons, but now there are only summer and winter.
0050名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ a74d-h3cN)
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2017/11/23(木) 20:28:55.31ID:58nhMKvb0
>>48
Although they must have anti-Japanese sentiments due to the communist party's policy,I wonder why they are so enthusiastic about learning Japanese. Is there anything behind this phenomenon ? Most of them are females, aren't they?
I also used to get access to Skype for the purpose of improving my English skills.
But after all, I found myself teaching Japanese to two Chinese girls from Sichuan Province.
0053名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 7fcf-5mWG)
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2017/11/23(木) 21:27:08.01ID:eITrbpiM0
>>50
> why they are so enthusiastic about learning Japanese
maybe in order to reading manga or anime
anti-JPN sentiment and anime buff. are two different stories for them.

>Most of them are females, aren't they?
Is that so? i'm not sure.

> after all, I found myself teaching Japanese to two Chinese girls

ww
0054名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 67a8-QZlG)
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2017/11/23(木) 21:58:17.19ID:GfuhuqAf0
I'm gonna tell you a true story why Chinese people are surprisingly eager to learn Japanese language.
Did you realize that many Chinese recently have been purchasing japan's real estate property such as lands, apartments, and private houses?
China is invading Japan slowly, gradually, but surely.
Sooner or later they will completely deprive our job, habitat, even culture. They are gonna cheat and deceive us by using proficient Japanese language. Our hospitality mind can be goofy enough.
The most threatening thing for Japan is neither AI nor North Korea. It is People's Republic of China.
They still feel strong resentment at what we have done on China during Sino-Japanese war 1894-1945. All the people of the country are burning with vengeful thoughts.
0055名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5fa3-KEHB)
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2017/11/23(木) 22:25:18.56ID:FT9mwTSz0
That is a little bit exaggeraued and seems much mnre conspirasy theory.
In fact,chinese communities are growing all over the world.
The U.S. has seen steep increase in chinese origin especially in unitersities.
For me, this is a most serious problem.Japanese students should go to unitesities in the U.S. more or we will be inslar country literally.
0056名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5fa3-KEHB)
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2017/11/23(木) 22:47:43.19ID:FT9mwTSz0
I've made so much typos.
I relied on gboard to write.So once I stop using it,I suffered from errors.
Same thing can be said to my japanese.
Now it is difficult to write chinese characters collectly having relied on computers so much.
I'm not suse whether I can write 正確 collectly.
0057名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/23(木) 22:51:53.74ID:+i4hQSof0
I'm not sure how one would set it up on a Japanese computer, but don't most web browsers
have options to enable spell checking?
At least for me, on Google Chrome, you can find it under Options→Advanced→Languages→Spell Check,
then select the language(s) you would like to have spellchecked.
It'll spot most mistakes and mark them with a wavy red line under the word, then you can right
click the word and it'll suggest words you might have intended to write instead.
Even natives make mistakes when writing or forget how to spell otherwise common words, so it's
a very useful tool to have, even more so when learning the language.
0058名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5fa3-KEHB)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:13:38.11ID:FT9mwTSz0
Yes.most PCs have spell cheack abilities both in Japanese and English.
They even suggest the nuances in same pronouciation words like 創造:creation and 想像:imagination.
Now I'm using certain gagdet to write that doesn't have any correction function.
This expose my spelling so sometimes it's useful to know my pure skill in English...
0060名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:20:13.13ID:cec+sK2bH
54 reminds me of Trumpism. Sooner or later, we, Japanese, may have Trump-like person as our prime minister. It is easy to fall into the trap. Not to mention you sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to boot. My bad.
0061名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 678d-5mWG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:31:18.98ID:PH3spAzS0
Humans really need to stop invading other people's places (or letting others invade their own places).
Just because whites invaded and colonized others in the past doesn't mean muslims, africans etc can invade and harass whites' places now.
0062名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:40:10.26ID:cV2ZnS6pH
I live in Setagaya Tokyo. In a 20-Min walk from my house, there is a historic site, where Hideki Tojo once lived.
0064名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:42:28.82ID:CfI6KmtKH
61. Agreed. You must be an Native American.
0065名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:45:14.30ID:+M6jt/v9H
63. You know something. As of 2017, there are more than 100,000 Japanese people living in China,
0068名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:54:16.96ID:EbpQfWBlH
@66. Tons of such shops over here. You are ill-informed. lol.
0069名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:56:19.84ID:EbpQfWBlH
Japanese economy today highly depends on China. Japan imports from China more than any other country, let alone China being the second largest buyer of Made-In-Japan today.
0071名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:57:21.24ID:EbpQfWBlH
We, humans, need each other to survive, regardless of color, zip code and the likes.
0073名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:05:04.28ID:ElqeSGs5H
@72. If you were Chinese, I guess you would have written something else up there. We are all biased one way or another.
0075名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:07:55.02ID:O5rRwtCkH
That’s the reason why we were born with two eyes and two years. Let’s try to use all of them.
0076名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:08:59.71ID:O5rRwtCkH
@74. My apologies
0077名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:12:00.21ID:O5rRwtCkH
About time to go to bed now. I must get up early tomorrow. Thank you. Everyone
0080名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa1f-h3cN)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:41:04.24ID:MGAwOMs4a
i thought about trying an online english chat room to polish my speaking/listening skills,
but i remember i need to get some headgear with microphone of good quality in the first place...
i wonder if reviews for products on amazon are reliable or not...
0081名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:44:25.91ID:LAH3OEAa0
I wouldn't mind some verbal communication to work on my Japanese either,
but I'm just worried that everyone else might not be used to my accent (in English)
since I'm not a native English speaker, and people are used to hearing either
British or American accents.
0082名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 678d-5mWG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:58:26.37ID:6fsyRplb0
>>65
100,000 is 1/7 of the number of the Chinese people in Japan. It is a very small size considering the population of China is 10 times larger than Japan.
On top of that, take the massive territorial size of China into consideration, and the size of the Japanese population in China should be insignificant.
0083fusianasan (ワッチョイ e719-wOFv)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:06:27.18ID:IgGcvECz0
>>80
Some of the reviews could be paid for or completely made up by the companies themselves,
but still I found review scores reliable in most cases.
Paying a closer attention to negative reviews rather than good ones also helps, I believe.

You would be surprised how Italian people tend not trust
the information they find on the internet, books, TVs or from any other media outlet.
Instead, they value the information they obtain from real-life friends
as if it is the only reliable information out there...
0084名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07be-tbal)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:10:30.93ID:/TBUCuHA0
>>17
you should go hospital.(´・ω・`)
0089名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:37:48.37ID:O5rRwtCkH
@82. Then we should send J-nese business persons and their families even more to China, to to mention students who are eager to learn Chinese.
0090名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:38:43.39ID:O5rRwtCkH
The fact is that, without them, we, Japanese, can no longer sustain our daily life, like it or not.
0091名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:40:12.74ID:O5rRwtCkH
Look around, everything is Chinese, your clothes, electric appliances, shoes and the list goes on and on. Put simply. We are living in One World.
0092名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:41:21.09ID:O5rRwtCkH
Your saying like Chinese should go back to China is the same thing as some of them saying like Japanese should go back to Japan. Those are mostly right-wingers, aka, uneducated, narrow-minded ones.
0093名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:44:01.25ID:H5ubU6VuH
Swim with the tide.
0096名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アークセーT Sxfb-5mWG)
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2017/11/24(金) 03:01:05.30ID:DBOCO4RTx
in spite of learnning English every day, my dream that watching american movies without subtitle are long way to go.
and the saddest thing is that speaking in English is much more diffcult than listenning or reading english.
everytime i try to speak and make sentenses in english, words are running away from my head.
it's like i'm a butterfly catcher and words are flying away from me in to the blue sky.
and English grammar is also my nightmare which is completly different from japanese one.
the hardest part is how to deal with the time. past tense, future tense, present tense, confusing me.
when i talk about some story to someone, my characters break time barrier easly. like time traveler.
so that even the easy storys like my grandma going shopping to supermarket turn into a Science Fiction.
0099名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 03:13:59.51ID:LAH3OEAa0
>>96
It's the same for me with Japanese. If I get the time to look up words and
write my thoughts down instead of speaking them then I can form quite coherent
sentences, but if I need to speak in real life then I'll often pick the wrong words,
speak casually when I should be speaking politely and vice versa, screw up the
tenses, or just sound like an idiot in general.

Do you also feel like you just can't use half the vocabulary you supposedly know?
Like, I know around 8000 Japanese words at this point, but a lot of words I'd only
ever recognize and would never use on the spot even if they would be the most appropriate.
For example, I recognize the word 涼しい when I see it, but I've never actually used
it when it would have been appropriate. Instead my mind jumps to スッキリ even
if it would be grammatically incorrect or sound weird in context.
0101名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 5fa3-9d8p)
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2017/11/24(金) 05:05:33.58ID:n6xoc0PQ0
It is interesting to know you confuse スッキリ with 涼しい.
Learning second language is that difficult...
We'll be スッキリ after taking shower, and we'll say 涼しい in front of air conditioner in summer.
Speaking is the most difficult because we have no time to come up with the right words.
I can read the New York Times with no difficulties, but my speaking level is of native elementally school pupils...
0102名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 06:00:34.72ID:WJuBIRYgH
@95. 1. Totally agree with you there
2. I don’t see your point.
Good day.
0103名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/24(金) 09:13:54.25ID:DXgyfqN00
I am so happy that this thread has been gaining huge momentum recently.
0104名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 475f-Xp/k)
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2017/11/24(金) 10:30:57.91ID:c2WMsZAy0
>>103

TOEICスレに長年粘着してるクズ野郎潜伏中につき注意

96 ニューマン ◆qLGXMpFAeM (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)[] 2017/11/24(金) 09:28:49.71 ID:DXgyfqN00

>>93
何を根拠に雑魚と?点数か?
じゃあまずお前がスコアをID付きでうpしてみろよ。これでどっちが雑魚かはっきりするだろ。
0105名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 0733-Tsrw)
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2017/11/24(金) 11:06:50.04ID:7kGktQw70
I totally scare of making grammartical mistakes when I speak or write English sebtences.
How sbout you guys? Is it ok making mistakes?
0108名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/24(金) 11:36:28.56ID:DXgyfqN00
>>104
Since this is an English-chatting thread, you'd better write your opinion in English from next time; otherwise you are going to be seen as a non-english idiot.
0111名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウカー Sadb-Tsrw)
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2017/11/24(金) 12:07:58.94ID:jmOIjBY0a
Please tell me about “shadowing” learning style.
Is it effective when I wanna improve my English speaking skills?
Please tell me about it especially someone who’s trying shadowing now
0113名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5f19-wOFv)
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2017/11/24(金) 12:33:37.71ID:Ntl+T8Gg0
>>105
Making mistakes is absolutely the best way to learn something in the quickest possible manner.
Being too scared of it is completely unnecessary and just slows down your progression,
although for whatever reason it is all too common among Japanese people.
No one starts out perfect, and in all honesty,
no one really cares if you make a mistake or two in a foreign language.
Just go ahead and set yourself up in an environment to make a lot of errors.
It will definitely help you.
0120名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:46:44.46ID:bHbYHd9vH
@104. Score ? What the hell is are talking about ? I think I‘ve never even talked with ya, Grow up, kid..
0123名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:48:45.32ID:bHbYHd9vH
Correction : Are you talking about. Not are talking about
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