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Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 204
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0065名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:45:14.30ID:+M6jt/v9H
63. You know something. As of 2017, there are more than 100,000 Japanese people living in China,
0068名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:54:16.96ID:EbpQfWBlH
@66. Tons of such shops over here. You are ill-informed. lol.
0069名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:56:19.84ID:EbpQfWBlH
Japanese economy today highly depends on China. Japan imports from China more than any other country, let alone China being the second largest buyer of Made-In-Japan today.
0071名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/23(木) 23:57:21.24ID:EbpQfWBlH
We, humans, need each other to survive, regardless of color, zip code and the likes.
0073名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:05:04.28ID:ElqeSGs5H
@72. If you were Chinese, I guess you would have written something else up there. We are all biased one way or another.
0075名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:07:55.02ID:O5rRwtCkH
That’s the reason why we were born with two eyes and two years. Let’s try to use all of them.
0076名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:08:59.71ID:O5rRwtCkH
@74. My apologies
0077名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:12:00.21ID:O5rRwtCkH
About time to go to bed now. I must get up early tomorrow. Thank you. Everyone
0080名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウエーT Sa1f-h3cN)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:41:04.24ID:MGAwOMs4a
i thought about trying an online english chat room to polish my speaking/listening skills,
but i remember i need to get some headgear with microphone of good quality in the first place...
i wonder if reviews for products on amazon are reliable or not...
0081名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:44:25.91ID:LAH3OEAa0
I wouldn't mind some verbal communication to work on my Japanese either,
but I'm just worried that everyone else might not be used to my accent (in English)
since I'm not a native English speaker, and people are used to hearing either
British or American accents.
0082名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 678d-5mWG)
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2017/11/24(金) 00:58:26.37ID:6fsyRplb0
>>65
100,000 is 1/7 of the number of the Chinese people in Japan. It is a very small size considering the population of China is 10 times larger than Japan.
On top of that, take the massive territorial size of China into consideration, and the size of the Japanese population in China should be insignificant.
0083fusianasan (ワッチョイ e719-wOFv)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:06:27.18ID:IgGcvECz0
>>80
Some of the reviews could be paid for or completely made up by the companies themselves,
but still I found review scores reliable in most cases.
Paying a closer attention to negative reviews rather than good ones also helps, I believe.

You would be surprised how Italian people tend not trust
the information they find on the internet, books, TVs or from any other media outlet.
Instead, they value the information they obtain from real-life friends
as if it is the only reliable information out there...
0084名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07be-tbal)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:10:30.93ID:/TBUCuHA0
>>17
you should go hospital.(´・ω・`)
0089名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:37:48.37ID:O5rRwtCkH
@82. Then we should send J-nese business persons and their families even more to China, to to mention students who are eager to learn Chinese.
0090名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:38:43.39ID:O5rRwtCkH
The fact is that, without them, we, Japanese, can no longer sustain our daily life, like it or not.
0091名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:40:12.74ID:O5rRwtCkH
Look around, everything is Chinese, your clothes, electric appliances, shoes and the list goes on and on. Put simply. We are living in One World.
0092名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:41:21.09ID:O5rRwtCkH
Your saying like Chinese should go back to China is the same thing as some of them saying like Japanese should go back to Japan. Those are mostly right-wingers, aka, uneducated, narrow-minded ones.
0093名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 01:44:01.25ID:H5ubU6VuH
Swim with the tide.
0096名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アークセーT Sxfb-5mWG)
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2017/11/24(金) 03:01:05.30ID:DBOCO4RTx
in spite of learnning English every day, my dream that watching american movies without subtitle are long way to go.
and the saddest thing is that speaking in English is much more diffcult than listenning or reading english.
everytime i try to speak and make sentenses in english, words are running away from my head.
it's like i'm a butterfly catcher and words are flying away from me in to the blue sky.
and English grammar is also my nightmare which is completly different from japanese one.
the hardest part is how to deal with the time. past tense, future tense, present tense, confusing me.
when i talk about some story to someone, my characters break time barrier easly. like time traveler.
so that even the easy storys like my grandma going shopping to supermarket turn into a Science Fiction.
0099名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 03:13:59.51ID:LAH3OEAa0
>>96
It's the same for me with Japanese. If I get the time to look up words and
write my thoughts down instead of speaking them then I can form quite coherent
sentences, but if I need to speak in real life then I'll often pick the wrong words,
speak casually when I should be speaking politely and vice versa, screw up the
tenses, or just sound like an idiot in general.

Do you also feel like you just can't use half the vocabulary you supposedly know?
Like, I know around 8000 Japanese words at this point, but a lot of words I'd only
ever recognize and would never use on the spot even if they would be the most appropriate.
For example, I recognize the word 涼しい when I see it, but I've never actually used
it when it would have been appropriate. Instead my mind jumps to スッキリ even
if it would be grammatically incorrect or sound weird in context.
0101名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 5fa3-9d8p)
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2017/11/24(金) 05:05:33.58ID:n6xoc0PQ0
It is interesting to know you confuse スッキリ with 涼しい.
Learning second language is that difficult...
We'll be スッキリ after taking shower, and we'll say 涼しい in front of air conditioner in summer.
Speaking is the most difficult because we have no time to come up with the right words.
I can read the New York Times with no difficulties, but my speaking level is of native elementally school pupils...
0102名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 06:00:34.72ID:WJuBIRYgH
@95. 1. Totally agree with you there
2. I don’t see your point.
Good day.
0103名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/24(金) 09:13:54.25ID:DXgyfqN00
I am so happy that this thread has been gaining huge momentum recently.
0104名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイWW 475f-Xp/k)
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2017/11/24(金) 10:30:57.91ID:c2WMsZAy0
>>103

TOEICスレに長年粘着してるクズ野郎潜伏中につき注意

96 ニューマン ◆qLGXMpFAeM (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)[] 2017/11/24(金) 09:28:49.71 ID:DXgyfqN00

>>93
何を根拠に雑魚と?点数か?
じゃあまずお前がスコアをID付きでうpしてみろよ。これでどっちが雑魚かはっきりするだろ。
0105名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 0733-Tsrw)
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2017/11/24(金) 11:06:50.04ID:7kGktQw70
I totally scare of making grammartical mistakes when I speak or write English sebtences.
How sbout you guys? Is it ok making mistakes?
0108名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/24(金) 11:36:28.56ID:DXgyfqN00
>>104
Since this is an English-chatting thread, you'd better write your opinion in English from next time; otherwise you are going to be seen as a non-english idiot.
0111名無しさん@英語勉強中 (アウアウカー Sadb-Tsrw)
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2017/11/24(金) 12:07:58.94ID:jmOIjBY0a
Please tell me about “shadowing” learning style.
Is it effective when I wanna improve my English speaking skills?
Please tell me about it especially someone who’s trying shadowing now
0113名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5f19-wOFv)
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2017/11/24(金) 12:33:37.71ID:Ntl+T8Gg0
>>105
Making mistakes is absolutely the best way to learn something in the quickest possible manner.
Being too scared of it is completely unnecessary and just slows down your progression,
although for whatever reason it is all too common among Japanese people.
No one starts out perfect, and in all honesty,
no one really cares if you make a mistake or two in a foreign language.
Just go ahead and set yourself up in an environment to make a lot of errors.
It will definitely help you.
0120名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:46:44.46ID:bHbYHd9vH
@104. Score ? What the hell is are talking about ? I think I‘ve never even talked with ya, Grow up, kid..
0123名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:48:45.32ID:bHbYHd9vH
Correction : Are you talking about. Not are talking about
0124名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:52:57.53ID:qGrihCamH
This thread is so destructive that I think I am wasting my time and that I will fail in a upcoming test next month.
0125名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 13:53:55.15ID:qGrihCamH
Gotta get out of here ASAP. XD
0127名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07be-tbal)
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2017/11/24(金) 14:06:48.34ID:/TBUCuHA0
why destructive?
this thread topics are mostly boring.
0133名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 17:26:18.50ID:+r1RpL0LH
Having said that though, I’m still here.
*facepalm*
0137名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:04:31.58ID:LAH3OEAa0
>>135
I think Bogan Australian with as much slang and stereotypical "Australianness" as possible
is hilarious and fun to listen to. I don't like it just because it "sounds silly" but because they
usually sound like rowdy, fun people with a lot of energy. That's a stereotype of Australia in
general, sure, but it's not like it's a bad one.

>>136
I'm assuming you mean the Midwestern American accent, or as it's often called, the "accentless"
American accent? I like that one too. America doesn't really have that many good accents,
but the Midwestern is good and the New Yorker accent is at least funny to listen to for a little
while. If you listen to it for too long it starts to get really annoying.
0139名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07bd-QZlG)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:20:48.80ID:DXgyfqN00
How much I like american accent depends on the region. Since US is a huge country, people's english speaking accent varies place to place within the country.
Personally, I don't like Newyorker's accent. It is not very comfortable to hear for me.
I like California and Texas accent.
0141名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:36:38.43ID:jwWuQS0tH
During my two day visit to Scotland, I couldn’t even catch the word, Loch Ness. I even met a Japanese female student saying like “Dad, call me back to Japan, people here don’t speak English !”
0142名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:37:50.36ID:jwWuQS0tH
@138 You are a Japanese-in-name-only. Remember. We all crossed Yellow Sea a long time ago. We humans are all the same. Not just Mongolians, Some of us also drink too much and lose control. That’s nothing new.
0143名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:39:06.39ID:jwWuQS0tH
@139. Wish I could visit the US some day.
0144名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:41:17.55ID:WJuBIRYgH
Among many accents in Japan, I like Ibaraki’s accent the most. So cute. :)
0145名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 2763-l6Tq)
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2017/11/24(金) 18:55:45.31ID:LAH3OEAa0
>>144
I'm totally crazy for the Kansai dialect. I love its rhythm, its unique vocabulary, the comedians
that speak it, and the speakers themselves are usually really fun people to be around.
I want to learn to speak something like it too, but I know that "general Kansai dialect" isn't a
thing, so I need to learn which dialect has the features I like the most and start focusing on that
one.
0147名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 19:09:51.50ID:qGrihCamH
@145 Among many TV personalities in Japan, some are from overseas. Of these, A guy who can speak Yamagata accent is so funny. I like him. I cannot recall his name though. Kansai accent also sounds funny to Tokyoite that I am.
0149名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 19:29:57.03ID:oK6stp6kH
@148 you must the one I called RWNJ. LOL.
0151名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 19:44:09.68ID:ZAC0krFBH
Thank you for reading my great comment to ya. Hope you liked it as always.
0154名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 20:21:03.97ID:AQHwxGVgH
@152. Agreed. Even among us all. Some are lefty, others are righty. Otherwise there would not be that many nouns. Btw. Why is it that some of us tend to look down on other Asians ? I guess you can answer my stupid question in no time.
0155名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイW 07be-tbal)
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2017/11/24(金) 20:26:52.92ID:/TBUCuHA0
no. the victim (takanoiwa) went zyungyo(巡業) after the trouble and won the match.
everyone there didnt confirm his wound (including me watched the VTR).
so what i doubt about is why harumafuji's affair reported exaggerately and wrongly.
all i want to expel is not individual like harumafuji nor takanohana, but the corrupt structure of sumo association(相撲協会) itself.
0156名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 20:27:04.61ID:34DEoC/jH
@153. Good point. Totally agreed.
0159名無しさん@英語勉強中 (AUW 0H3f-3rsG)
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2017/11/24(金) 20:37:14.09ID:oK6stp6kH
@157. What if there were some bullying because they are minorities ? Being an outsider is not as easy as we can imagine,
0160名無しさん@英語勉強中 (ワッチョイ 5f24-KEHB)
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2017/11/24(金) 20:52:51.06ID:iQlknfjG0
I don't like Japanese accent in English, even though I also speak in that way.
They tend to speak very flatly with no intonation, and influenced by the first language greatly.
This make them very hard to understand.
I am used to listen to other accents such as lndian's or Filipino's
because they broadcast news on a daily basis,
but have less opportunities to be exposed by Japanse accent.
This makes things worse especially when I have to be interviewed by Japanese who has strong accent.
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