韓国におけるHIPHOPは
■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています
肌が黄色いからHIPHOPは無理だというのは、韓国の方達が覆してくれましたね。
ビッグバンからなのかな?同じYGエンターテインメントBLACKPINK とか、もう冗談だろってくらいのレベルのも出てきてます(アメリカのシーン超えてる)。
防弾少年団もニッキーミナージュ引き連れて歌っちゃってるし。
強調しておくけど、国民的スター・アイドルがHIPHOPだってことね。
男も女も。
ジャニーズやAKBらがってことね。 日本と韓国はアイドルグループがいるということでは共通点があるんだよね。
育成したりもするし。
でも、ジャニーズ、EXILE、おにゃんこ流れ と YGエンターテインメント とを
比べたときの圧倒的な敗北感(HIPHOP、R&B、ダンスなど黒人大衆音楽面として)
は一体なんなんだと。純粋に謎なわけ。
上にあげたBLACKPINKなんて、20くらいのかわいいお姉ちゃんがラップがクソ上手い
のよ。もう、言葉がどうとかの次元でなくてレベルが違うのよ。調子の良いニッキー
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そこはお互い同じところからのカムバだと思うな
韓国今はヒップホップ売れないらしいからそれが原因かもね
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そうすると、アメリカで、ドレイクもニッキーミナージュも《作家先生》も、
アイドルってことになるだろうし。
そもそも、ポピュラーミュージック(POPSもちろんROCKもブラックミュージックも)
って芸術じゃなくて売れてなんぼなもので。HIPHOPも、BDPやPEならば黒人地位向上
のスピーチ的意味を含めてただろうが売れてたし。
申し訳ないが質の悪いものが売れないからアングラ名乗って許される という風潮
は、ミュージシャンや取り巻きにとっては精神衛生上良いのかもしれないが、客観的
に見て滑稽だ。 そうやって考えると、韓国は日本とは比較にならないくらい、HIPHOPが社会的に浸透
しているのだよね。
だって、KーPOPが現在、アメリカのシーンよりも、ブラックミュージックを大事にした
曲・ダンスなんだもの。
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BLACKPINKにとって初となる1万人規模のアリーナ北米ツアーチケットは、発売すぐに「完売」と報道されていましたが、実際は転売屋の買占めだったことが明らかとなりました。
現在はチケットサイトに大量に売り出されており、定価67ドルのチケットが今では最低価格が28ドルにまで下がり、転売屋の予想に反し全く売れず「叩き売り」状態であることが話題になっています。
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特にソロでデビューした子は、すんごいわ。
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の
BANG BANG BANG
って、1位になってるんでしょ?韓国で。
それって、Sly&the Family Stone の Family Affair が全米1位になったのと
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のは日本人にHIPHOP含むFUNKNESSが全くないからだよ。
サザンの「勝手にシンドバッド」ぐらいだろ、リアルにビートのある曲が国民に受け入れ
られたのは。でも、あれも、ベストテンで黒柳徹子に面白がられたからで、純粋に音楽で
ではないし。 江利チエミ カモナマイハウス の江利チエミさまが ビートもクソもない美空ひばり
よりはるか下に見られる国だしな。
ヒップホップって口に出すだけでも寒いよ日本では
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BIGBANGやらBLACKPINK、防弾少年団が“アイドル”の国とじゃ
比較してくれって方がおこがましいよ。
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