Chat in English (英語で雑談)　part 204

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (GB 0Hf1-zvir) · 2017/11/22(水) 21:46:47.04

テンプレはめんどくさいから、>>2以下で誰かやってください。

2017/11/24(金) 21:00:08.61

Compared to that European's accents are easy to understand,
when l hear they speak English in international meetings on BBC.

2017/11/24(金) 21:05:45.95

>>160
sorry, i dont quite understand your situation
which country are you living in now?

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:09:00.26

@161. How can you be so sure ? Are you a sumo wrestler ? Probably you are not. But one thing is for sure, you are extremely self-righteous. Better doubt everything. My two cents though.

2017/11/24(金) 21:09:48.97

>>162
かわいがり is not a bullying targeted at minorities

2017/11/24(金) 21:16:59.89

>>165
何度もいわれてるんだからルールを覚えてよ

replyしたい人の番号の前に>>をつけるんだよ

2017/11/24(金) 21:17:15.06

>>166
how do you define かわいがり? that induced murder at tokitsukaze stable on 2007.

2017/11/24(金) 21:18:02.67

>>164 I'm living in Japan surrounded by those who speak decent English.
So I had less chance to have conversations with strong accented Japanese.
I don't deny or blame someone, but just mentioned about my preference.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:19:05.55

@167. My bad

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:21:08.06

@169 Hope you enjoy Japan to the fullest, Soon enough, I bet you will get used to our accents.

2017/11/24(金) 21:32:49.26

>>171
I'm sorry to make you confused.
I am Japanese living in Japan.
I've talked about a little rare situation,
so it must be difficult to grasp.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:35:13.62

@172. *Sudden burst of laughter*

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:36:03.71

@168 Let me put it this way. かわいがり means love, while いじめ means bullying. In the case you mentioned above, I assume that かわいがり is being used ironically. いじめ is the suitable word for it.
Hope this helps.

2017/11/24(金) 21:37:03.90

かわいがりi is a traditional way in japanese smo world
it's a kind of violence, so it should not be.
but this is entirely unrelated to discrimination

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:46:44.87

True. Anything but dicsrimination. However, as you may know, bullying sometimes happens, no matter what country, workplace, or school it is. Miniorities are more likely to become an easy target then majorities.

2017/11/24(金) 21:57:22.73

Communist chinks need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/24(金) 21:58:29.17

>>172
now are we talking about sumo world, aren't we?
かわいがり is a kind of violence which a higher-order person commites against low-order one.
so this may be a power harassment

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 22:17:54.75

Case closed

2017/11/24(金) 22:22:31.63

i always try to get rid of small pieces of food that are stuck between my teeth
with a toothpick after having a lunch.
basically those pieces are successfully taken away but sometimes i fail.
in such a case, i keep on being distracted while working. i can't concentrate.

2017/11/24(金) 22:45:54.55

>>180
please dont waste an opportunity to exercise your english skills on such a nonsense topic

2017/11/24(金) 23:34:41.38

What about communist chinks? They really need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/24(金) 23:47:12.20

>>181
i feel sorry to hear that, i like nonsence.
i am attacked by so many directions/orders of "to be effective", "to be cost-saving",
"to be logical" or "to be time-saving" at the office in the daytime
that i would like to flirt with nonsense when i spend my valuable private time.

2017/11/25(土) 00:51:47.99

Retards condemn the white colonists and such daily, but not the communist chinks bullying Tibet for decades.
Instead, they are like "CHINA ARE THE FUTURE! WE ARE ONE WITH THE CHINA!"

Why? Because they are retarded. That's why.

2017/11/25(土) 04:50:14.25

Political issues are difficult thing to talk.I 've heard before that it is recommended to avoid to talk it in workplaces in the US.
It is understandable considering the political device in the country.
Unfortunately, Japan seems to follow suit the situation. Rift between political left and right-wing is bigger than ever.
Bigotry and nationalism prevail across the world.

2017/11/25(土) 05:01:06.39

what is political device...
I meant political devide.
I don't know whether it is my fault or voice recognition's fault.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 06:41:43.09

It sounds pretty strange when the Japanese accuse the Chinese of crimes against humanity. Those ignorant Japanese don’t even know that millions of Chinese people lost their lives when invaded.

2017/11/25(土) 06:50:50.96

Please do us all a favor and don't start this shit again.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:01:01.53

Give me a break. You are barking up the wrong tree !

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:03:35.09

Charity begins at home and house. Please feel free to post anything you like. Thank you in advance.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:18:12.24

Yawn

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:21:47.26

Ugh. Mom. Give me back my toys. I’m going home !

2017/11/25(土) 07:24:00.10

I have a pen.
I have had a pen.
I had a pen.
I had had a pen.
I will have a pen.
I will have had a pen.
I am going to have a pen.
I am holding a pen.
I will be going to hold a pen.
I am going to be holding a pen.
I have been holding a pen.
I was hoding a pen.

So many tense. English is difficult

2017/11/25(土) 07:29:04.76

I will be going to hold a pen.×
I will be holding a pen ○

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:43:43.48

*scratches head*

2017/11/25(土) 07:47:29.48

I'm going to be a pen someday.

I cannot type this sentence by voice typing because it is too unnatural.
It will automatically correct like this.

I am going to be a pain someday
I'm going to be up then someday
I'm going to be a pain someday

it's impossible to write lol

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:50:35.60

*eyes wide open*

2017/11/25(土) 07:55:35.50

"I will be going to hold a pen" would technically be grammatically correct
if "going" is used literally rather than as an auxiliary verb.
As in "I will be heading to another location to hold a pen."

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:58:48.73

* nods *

2017/11/25(土) 08:07:11.78

It's interesting.

I will be going to hold the pen

I can write this sentence by voice typing so it can be a correct sentence.
Voice typing is a good tool to know how to write naturally.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 08:07:22.88

Yawn

2017/11/25(土) 08:41:33.67

You must be in a place where there is little oxygen.

2017/11/25(土) 09:18:02.06

Or you must have so fat a body as not to be able to breathe enough.

2017/11/25(土) 09:41:26.57

>>187
Japan has apologized to china and provided your country about 45 billion dollars until now.
So, China also should stop invading Tibet, Uighur and Mongolia immediately and should
apologize them, give them an enormous amount of money, just as Japan did, please.

if that helps, Japan has been carring out ODA to China even now

2017/11/25(土) 10:48:06.47

>>175
the murder case on 2007 shouldnt be bullying or discrimination? you are a optimistic person!

2017/11/25(土) 10:56:24.62

>>187
You are stupid enough not be able to make out that human consciousness toward" what is good and what is bad" has changed in accordance with times.
Nowadays, we are liveing in a time when such a concept as " humanity" is spreading all over the world.
So those who commit crimes agianst humanity should be severely punished.
On the other hand, the time when Japan advanced into China is so-called an era of "imperialism"
One of the characteristics of this era is, as it were, the survival of the fittest, which means the strong prey on the weak.
You should not evaluate historical facts on the basis of modern values where you stand on.

**206** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 11:05:50.65

correction make out →　understand

2017/11/25(土) 12:31:50.97

>>204
I don't think he's Chinese. The Chinese are generally smarter than this retard.

2017/11/25(土) 12:36:51.84

The 5 words japanese people can't pronounce properly.

forever, shake it out, get out, world, hurt

2017/11/25(土) 12:57:46.10

>>187
Millions of Chinese?? Why do you Chinese like to forge lies concerning numerals? Huh?
First of all, you should learn historical facts sincerely and should not exploit them for the purpose of gaining political benefits.
The so-called Nanjing masscare is a typical example of your being a liar.
How could the Japanese military kill three hundred thousand Chinese when the population of Nanjing city at that time were approximately two hundred thousand ? Huh?

Although we are living in a time when fundamental human rights should be thoroughly respected, only China is invading neighboring countries and regions in an anachronistic manner.
In the couse of time,your contry will be ostracized from internatinal comminity. I

2017/11/25(土) 13:20:26.66

whatever you say, I set him up as a Chinese.
That's because I just wanted to practice English writing. lol

2017/11/25(土) 13:32:29.09

Hey! Let's talk about Final Fantasy!
Where has jook gone! Come back here!

2017/11/25(土) 13:37:33.00

>>208
i know he is chinese
because i have argued about this kind of subject against many chinese on the internet
and every one of them said just the same thing every time as if they had
somehing like a list of potential Q & A on this subject for defending themselves

2017/11/25(土) 13:58:14.74

Chinks are Tibetan murderers. They need to be stopped!

2017/11/25(土) 14:08:43.86

Vicious spiral

China is afraid of Japan
Japan is afraid of North Korea
North Korea is afraid of South Korea
South korea is afraid of China

2017/11/25(土) 14:22:40.39

>>213
But this one is not Chinese. I'm a lot better at this kind of guessing than you, so you should shut up and listen to my verdict.

2017/11/25(土) 14:46:43.15

>>215
I don't think China is afraid of Japan.
I don't think Japan is afraid of North Korea.
Don't know about South Korea.

2017/11/25(土) 15:12:07.58

Forever:
You have to bite your lower lip slightly when prononceing f-sound and v-sound. As for r-sound, I've learned you have to pull your tongue to the back of your mouth, not roll it up.

Shake it out: E-sound is omitted. The former t-sound turns into soft d-sound or r-sound while the latter t-sound is omitted.

Get it out: the former t-sound turns into soft d-sound or r-sound. The latter t-sound is omitted.

World: l-sound before a consonant is called " dark L ", whose sound is similar to "u".

**218** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 15:16:10.90

correction get it out →　get out

**218** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/25(土) 15:23:35.89

correction bite the lower lip with your upper front teeth.

2017/11/25(土) 15:32:57.98

Thanks!!!!!!

2017/11/25(土) 16:11:08.46

Communist chinks: They need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/25(土) 16:37:26.37

Retard: "I hate bullying!"

-China is bullying Tibet.
-Japan bullied China in the past.
-Therefore, I, a Japanese, should not accuse China of the ongoing bullying. Fuck white bullies, but let's kiss China's ass, they got money and power.

I think a lot of the problems in today's world are caused by this kind of retard logic.

2017/11/25(土) 17:11:22.65

Many people attack China's human rights problems, but I don't care about those matters.
I don't care if millions of Chinese people get killed in China at the hands of the communist party. It's their history.
China just needs to listen to the Dalai Lama and his people and do what ought to be done.
High level autonomy is what they have been wanting, and no more than that, if I'm not mistaken.

2017/11/25(土) 18:02:34.12

A few years ago, I watched some documentary about reviving Buddhism in China. They seemed to be great people.
I think east asians go wrong when they throw away Buddhism. Koreans have become ill because they threw it away in the 17th century or something.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 18:32:02.27

Mom. As shown, I totally outsmarted all of them this morning. I had a blast.
ー Naughty Naughty ー

2017/11/25(土) 19:16:20.42

>>225
17th?
I guess it's after the world war 2.
Anyway I think your idea is correct.

But,India throw B away and making success.

2017/11/25(土) 20:24:30.60

Chat in English 英語で雑談 Ver:Q and A PART1
http://lavender.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1511609018/

2017/11/25(土) 21:12:43.82

>>227
Korea practically quit Buddhism in the 15th century or something and went full Confucianist, I think.
Also, people think Indians are asians, but actually they are like Iranian-Europeans or something.

2017/11/25(土) 21:25:17.28

I don't know how much you guys use a dictionary when you write your posts, but from my fluent
perspective you all seem to speak really good English.
Maybe you've heard of the habit a lot of Japanese people have of saying that a non-native speaker
can speak really good Japanese if they can speak it at all, even just basic phrases with a thick accent,
but as someone who's personally tired of getting compliments like that in spite of how bad I know my
Japanese actually is, I really do think you guys are doing a great job.
Keep it up. I'm cheering for you.

2017/11/25(土) 21:33:05.02

These imflammable topics are not suitable here.
Because you will likely be embroiled in quarrels and just keep writing unproductive things.
Furthermore, it is waste of time for most people to read these layman's political views.
If you wanna talk about histrical issues, create a new thread.

2017/11/25(土) 21:38:27.28

Asking this question is kinda rude,but I’m curious about your occupation and age.
I mean I wanna know what kind of people there are,and speak English really fluently.
Sometimes I wonder some people aren’t Japanese because of their natural English sentences.

2017/11/25(土) 21:42:56.95

>>232
I don't think that's rude to ask. Seems perfectly fine to me.
Although I'm not Japanese, and I've been speaking English fluently
for several years so I probably don't count. My fluency has been getting
a little worse lately since I spend a lot of time reading, thinking, and speaking
Japanese, so I'm getting a little rusty at articulating myself in English as good
as I used to.

2017/11/25(土) 21:48:39.39

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 21:49:27.81

>>232
If you tell me about you, I will share my information with you

2017/11/25(土) 21:56:26.93

>>232
And what kind of person are you?
You're quit fluent at least when taking down.

2017/11/25(土) 22:06:19.35

I've been looking forward to reading this swedish guy's posts lately because I learn a lot from them.

2017/11/25(土) 22:12:11.15

>>230
I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

2017/11/25(土) 22:32:17.45

I hope this brilliant swedish guy will make a handle name and show it whenever he writes here. All his posts are extremely valuable.

2017/11/25(土) 22:39:41.29

I can't quite tell if you two are being sarcastic or if you genuinely enjoy my posts.
I could make a handle name if you want, but I really don't believe I contribute anything
of value enough to justify putting on a name.
Sure, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have, but I'm not sure if a name is required for that.

2017/11/25(土) 22:40:01.95

I don’t like his writings because everything seems snobbish and condescending af...

2017/11/25(土) 22:47:40.67

What about it is condescending? The only condescending or snobbish thing I can recall saying
is me repeating that I speak English fluently, but it's not like I'm trying to brag when I say that.
If you were to tell me "I speak Japanese fluently and think so and so" then I don't see anything
snobbish about that if it's relevant to the conversation.

2017/11/25(土) 23:46:34.91

You don't have to sweat the small stuff. Just ignore >>241's remarks!
It can't be helped. " So many men, so many minds", as the saying goes.

2017/11/25(土) 23:57:22.46

↑
A typical white ass licker

2017/11/26(日) 00:02:26.15

>>244
Then, what are you?

2017/11/26(日) 00:15:36.40

i placed an order with amazon for an apple's product though it is not a high-end model.
it's been quite a while since i ordered with them the last time,
and i was stunned to know that now i can pick up the goods at selected convenience stores near my house 7/24...!

2017/11/26(日) 00:24:56.63

You’re living in the past?

2017/11/26(日) 01:12:12.67

>>237
Where is the swedish guy?
What are you getting at?

2017/11/26(日) 01:31:26.47

>>248
It was just my guess from a couple of posts which had had certain characteristics peculiar to his writing

2017/11/26(日) 01:35:52.33

Well, it is me. I'm the Swedish guy.
I think other than me there are probably only two other fluent English speakers
that visit this thread.

2017/11/26(日) 01:37:00.30

Bragging again? So white...

2017/11/26(日) 02:38:15.09

>>212
Which one of the series is the best for you?
I like 7 a lot.

I’ve been into Pocket Camp from どうぶつの森 lately since it released 4 days ago though.
It seems not to have ガチャ feature, which give you random items.
I heard that Hawaii started a talk whether ’loot boxes’ are gambling or not.

2017/11/26(日) 14:05:20.14

I posted as 232 yesterday and i was sorry to forget putting my information down.
I’m 22years old Japanese student and I enrolled English conversation school.
I want to improve my English skills not only speaking but also writing.
I think thinking things in English even in your daily life is really effective so I’m here to chat with you guys :)

2017/11/26(日) 15:28:12.48

>>253
Amyway thinking in english possible for
japanese natives?

2017/11/26(日) 15:59:07.53

>>254
Personally,yes.
I think translating my native language into other languages what I wanna learn makes some pauses or hesitation when I speak.
But of course,it’s really difficult to think complicated things or something now

2017/11/26(日) 16:02:46.61

As for me, the more things or topics are complicated, the more likely I think them in Japanese first and then literally translate them into English.
For this reason, I tend to make a lot of English sentences with an abstract noun （S) ＋ to be(V) ＋　an adjecttive (C).

**256** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:10:54.07

If you let me, I'd like to explain about what I mentioned above more specifically.
Please take a look at the following two sentences.
(1) My eyesight is poor
(2) I have poor eyesight.
I've learned a book that we Japanese are prone to compose a sentence like (1)
while most native speakers of English would be likely to say (2)

**257** (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ a74d-h3cN) · 2017/11/26(日) 17:18:26.80

correction learned →　learned from

2017/11/26(日) 17:28:20.68

Both of those sentences are fine, but the tone is somewhat different between the two. "My eyesight is poor" sounds like
a reason or explanation for something (imagine you were to put a し at the end of that sentence) or that you're specifically
focusing on your eyesight, like if a doctor asked you "do you have any physical defects or disabilities?" then it seems like
that sentence would fit right in as an answer. It also feels a little more formal than the second sentence, but maybe that's
just me, and maybe it's just because it admittedly does sound less like what a native would say.

Although to be honest, if someone were to say either to me and I don't know anything about them, I wouldn't think they're
not a native for posting the first sentence, and I'd only even really think about it in a scenario like this when you have 2
sentences that mean the same thing but have slightly different tones to them.

Either way, you could say either sentence and there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. The tone might be slightly different,
but tone and nuance in language is something you won't learn and fully grasp until you're nearly fluent, and at that point it's
all about nailing that last part (tone and nuance) to become a fully fledged fluent speaker.

2017/11/26(日) 17:35:09.97

too long

2017/11/26(日) 17:40:53.08

>>255
I think japanese english learner shouldn't
think this kind of issue over and over coz that have no correct answer.
Conversation in english thinks it's ok if the ones in the coversation are able to give and take of information.

2017/11/26(日) 17:56:39.26

>>260
Agreed