Chat in English (英語で雑談)　part 204

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (GB 0Hf1-zvir) · 2017/11/22(水) 21:46:47.04

テンプレはめんどくさいから、>>2以下で誰かやってください。

2017/11/24(金) 02:01:22.30

>>92
1.Here is not your possession.
2.Not the same.Think about situation.

2017/11/24(金) 03:01:05.30

in spite of learnning English every day, my dream that watching american movies without subtitle are long way to go.
and the saddest thing is that speaking in English is much more diffcult than listenning or reading english.
everytime i try to speak and make sentenses in english, words are running away from my head.
it's like i'm a butterfly catcher and words are flying away from me in to the blue sky.
and English grammar is also my nightmare which is completly different from japanese one.
the hardest part is how to deal with the time. past tense, future tense, present tense, confusing me.
when i talk about some story to someone, my characters break time barrier easly. like time traveler.
so that even the easy storys like my grandma going shopping to supermarket turn into a Science Fiction.

2017/11/24(金) 03:01:20.04

>>94
How the hell did you get to know that?

2017/11/24(金) 03:08:17.77

>>96
How can I find out such difficulty in your sentenses?

2017/11/24(金) 03:13:59.51

>>96
It's the same for me with Japanese. If I get the time to look up words and
write my thoughts down instead of speaking them then I can form quite coherent
sentences, but if I need to speak in real life then I'll often pick the wrong words,
speak casually when I should be speaking politely and vice versa, screw up the
tenses, or just sound like an idiot in general.

Do you also feel like you just can't use half the vocabulary you supposedly know?
Like, I know around 8000 Japanese words at this point, but a lot of words I'd only
ever recognize and would never use on the spot even if they would be the most appropriate.
For example, I recognize the word 涼しい when I see it, but I've never actually used
it when it would have been appropriate. Instead my mind jumps to スッキリ even
if it would be grammatically incorrect or sound weird in context.

2017/11/24(金) 04:02:25.72

Don't forget everybody speaking incorrect japanese and that's enough for do almost all.

2017/11/24(金) 05:05:33.58

It is interesting to know you confuse スッキリ with 涼しい.
Learning second language is that difficult...
We'll be スッキリ after taking shower, and we'll say 涼しい in front of air conditioner in summer.
Speaking is the most difficult because we have no time to come up with the right words.
I can read the New York Times with no difficulties, but my speaking level is of native elementally school pupils...

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 06:00:34.72

@95. 1. Totally agree with you there
2. I don’t see your point.
Good day.

2017/11/24(金) 09:13:54.25

I am so happy that this thread has been gaining huge momentum recently.

2017/11/24(金) 10:30:57.91

>>103

TOEICスレに長年粘着してるクズ野郎潜伏中につき注意

96 ニューマン ◆qLGXMpFAeM (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 07bd-QZlG)[] 2017/11/24(金) 09:28:49.71 ID:DXgyfqN00

>>93
何を根拠に雑魚と？点数か？
じゃあまずお前がスコアをID付きでうpしてみろよ。これでどっちが雑魚かはっきりするだろ。

2017/11/24(金) 11:06:50.04

I totally scare of making grammartical mistakes when I speak or write English sebtences.
How sbout you guys? Is it ok making mistakes?

2017/11/24(金) 11:09:36.42

>>66
said no one ever

2017/11/24(金) 11:13:30.18

>>67
china wll pressure to Sanseido to say that

2017/11/24(金) 11:36:28.56

>>104
Since this is an English-chatting thread, you'd better write your opinion in English from next time; otherwise you are going to be seen as a non-english idiot.

2017/11/24(金) 11:50:01.15

>>94
I guess it doesn’t matter if the woman is just for abenefit realationships xD

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0Hcf-t4k1) · 2017/11/24(金) 12:05:47.74

>>67
How come praise?

2017/11/24(金) 12:07:58.94

Please tell me about “shadowing” learning style.
Is it effective when I wanna improve my English speaking skills?
Please tell me about it especially someone who’s trying shadowing now

2017/11/24(金) 12:13:57.94

>>103
are you the person who originally made this thread?

2017/11/24(金) 12:33:37.71

>>105
Making mistakes is absolutely the best way to learn something in the quickest possible manner.
Being too scared of it is completely unnecessary and just slows down your progression,
although for whatever reason it is all too common among Japanese people.
No one starts out perfect, and in all honesty,
no one really cares if you make a mistake or two in a foreign language.
Just go ahead and set yourself up in an environment to make a lot of errors.
It will definitely help you.

2017/11/24(金) 12:34:07.13

rewrote my reply

>>67
if china catches the news she will pressure 三省堂 to delete it
you may think it's a joke, but chaina will do it surely

2017/11/24(金) 12:37:41.17

>>113
entirely agree

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0Hcf-t4k1) · 2017/11/24(金) 12:49:05.62

>>105
Makeing mistake is no serious matter.
Breath easier to enjoy chat.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0Hcf-t4k1) · 2017/11/24(金) 12:59:05.87

>>111
Caran method is I think a kind of shadowing.

2017/11/24(金) 13:30:30.05

>>113
>>116
I definetly appreciate your comment.
How do I describe my enotions...speechless happines that you guys encoruage me to speak English and recommend talking English with joy.
I love you guys,and embrace your comment deeply.
Thank you for replying me!

2017/11/24(金) 13:39:33.91

>>117
Thanks man,i just searched that in a quick momment and i guess it’s quicker than shadowing talking speed.
Kinda intersting staff

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 13:46:44.46

@104. Score ? What the hell is are talking about ? I think I‘ve never even talked with ya, Grow up, kid..

2017/11/24(金) 13:47:15.43

I’m so glad that so many people started to post commnets here! Instead of freaking annoying gaijins...

2017/11/24(金) 13:48:04.96

What a productive thread. No wonder many english learners have been coming here recently.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 13:48:45.32

Correction : Are you talking about. Not are talking about

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 13:52:57.53

This thread is so destructive that I think I am wasting my time and that I will fail in a upcoming test next month.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 13:53:55.15

Gotta get out of here ASAP. XD

2017/11/24(金) 13:57:12.70

>>124
Then destruct all your devices that have an internet access right now.

2017/11/24(金) 14:06:48.34

why destructive?
this thread topics are mostly boring.

2017/11/24(金) 14:28:08.83

>>127
Then why don't you give us an intriguing topic? Did you come to this place just to complain?

2017/11/24(金) 14:33:25.24

>>127
Ha ha!
Your sarcasm is boring too.
You may have much knowledge about English but no English you write have wit!

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0Hcf-t4k1) · 2017/11/24(金) 16:03:37.41

>>129
Then,don't come back.

2017/11/24(金) 16:09:00.24

Comfort women are just professional prostitutes. Whores!

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (USWW 0Hcf-t4k1) · 2017/11/24(金) 16:20:22.86

>>112
If not good idea.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 17:26:18.50

Having said that though, I’m still here.
*facepalm*

2017/11/24(金) 17:30:43.10

Do you guys have a favorite dialect/accent of English?
Like Irish, German, French, American, etc. stuff like that.
I'm partial to Irish, Scottish, and Australian dialects, myself.

2017/11/24(金) 17:34:42.74

I like this guy’s accent but basically i don’t like british one and the one strongly related to british accent like Australian.
so i like american and canadian better.

https://youtu.be/9QCgqQdmr0M

2017/11/24(金) 17:55:21.94

>>134
I like american accent, maybe because I am accustomed to hear that by watching a lot of american movies

2017/11/24(金) 18:04:31.58

>>135
I think Bogan Australian with as much slang and stereotypical "Australianness" as possible
is hilarious and fun to listen to. I don't like it just because it "sounds silly" but because they
usually sound like rowdy, fun people with a lot of energy. That's a stereotype of Australia in
general, sure, but it's not like it's a bad one.

>>136
I'm assuming you mean the Midwestern American accent, or as it's often called, the "accentless"
American accent? I like that one too. America doesn't really have that many good accents,
but the Midwestern is good and the New Yorker accent is at least funny to listen to for a little
while. If you listen to it for too long it starts to get really annoying.

2017/11/24(金) 18:05:27.35

I've heard that Haruma-fuji has a drinking problem.
It seems that people live in Asian continent generically savage.
I wonder if that's because they are descended from Genghis Khan?

2017/11/24(金) 18:20:48.80

How much I like american accent depends on the region. Since US is a huge country, people's english speaking accent varies place to place within the country.
Personally, I don't like Newyorker's accent. It is not very comfortable to hear for me.
I like California and Texas accent.

2017/11/24(金) 18:21:39.91

Ohh, >>137 already mentioned what I wanted to say

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 18:36:38.43

During my two day visit to Scotland, I couldn’t even catch the word, Loch Ness. I even met a Japanese female student saying like “Dad, call me back to Japan, people here don’t speak English !”

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 18:37:50.36

@138 You are a Japanese-in-name-only. Remember. We all crossed Yellow Sea a long time ago. We humans are all the same. Not just Mongolians, Some of us also drink too much and lose control. That’s nothing new.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 18:39:06.39

@139. Wish I could visit the US some day.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 18:41:17.55

Among many accents in Japan, I like Ibaraki’s accent the most. So cute. :)

2017/11/24(金) 18:55:45.31

>>144
I'm totally crazy for the Kansai dialect. I love its rhythm, its unique vocabulary, the comedians
that speak it, and the speakers themselves are usually really fun people to be around.
I want to learn to speak something like it too, but I know that "general Kansai dialect" isn't a
thing, so I need to learn which dialect has the features I like the most and start focusing on that
one.

2017/11/24(金) 19:08:02.85

I guess you need another message board for your unlimited desire.
So,take a look at the site.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/study/13024/

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 19:09:51.50

@145 Among many TV personalities in Japan, some are from overseas. Of these, A guy who can speak Yamagata accent is so funny. I like him. I cannot recall his name though. Kansai accent also sounds funny to Tokyoite that I am.

2017/11/24(金) 19:24:54.12

I really wish this retard would fuck off and die. Why do this kind of retards tend to spam the thread?

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 19:29:57.03

@148 you must the one I called RWNJ. LOL.

2017/11/24(金) 19:37:18.72

I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you mentally ill? Why do you not use anchor?

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 19:44:09.68

Thank you for reading my great comment to ya. Hope you liked it as always.

2017/11/24(金) 20:02:57.73

>>142
we are not the same.
so-called national character a lot depends on its historical, geographic or geopolitical conditions

2017/11/24(金) 20:17:07.63

I don't watch sumo these days, but I liked Harumafuji's sumo style. He's a fighter. But his temper was not suitable for a yokozuna, I guess.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 20:21:03.97

@152. Agreed. Even among us all. Some are lefty, others are righty. Otherwise there would not be that many nouns. Btw. Why is it that some of us tend to look down on other Asians ? I guess you can answer my stupid question in no time.

2017/11/24(金) 20:26:52.92

no. the victim (takanoiwa) went zyungyo(巡業) after the trouble and won the match.
everyone there didnt confirm his wound (including me watched the VTR).
so what i doubt about is why harumafuji's affair reported exaggerately and wrongly.
all i want to expel is not individual like harumafuji nor takanohana, but the corrupt structure of sumo association(相撲協会) itself.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 20:27:04.61

@153. Good point. Totally agreed.

2017/11/24(金) 20:28:58.22

Asashoryu was also retired because he caused the violence
it seems that Mongolian-born sumo wrestlers are easily offended

2017/11/24(金) 20:29:36.92

>>156
your way of reply is not suitable for 5ch.
use ">>" instead of "@".

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 20:37:14.09

@157. What if there were some bullying because they are minorities ? Being an outsider is not as easy as we can imagine,

2017/11/24(金) 20:52:51.06

I don't like Japanese accent in English, even though I also speak in that way.
They tend to speak very flatly with no intonation, and influenced by the first language greatly.
This make them very hard to understand.
I am used to listen to other accents such as lndian's or Filipino's
because they broadcast news on a daily basis,
but have less opportunities to be exposed by Japanse accent.
This makes things worse especially when I have to be interviewed by Japanese who has strong accent.

2017/11/24(金) 20:56:21.32

>>159
you are unfamiliar with Japanese somo much?
there is not bullying due to being minority in japanese sumo world

2017/11/24(金) 21:00:01.92

>>161
why you can assert like that? dont you know the word "kawaigari" ?

2017/11/24(金) 21:00:08.61

Compared to that European's accents are easy to understand,
when l hear they speak English in international meetings on BBC.

2017/11/24(金) 21:05:45.95

>>160
sorry, i dont quite understand your situation
which country are you living in now?

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:09:00.26

@161. How can you be so sure ? Are you a sumo wrestler ? Probably you are not. But one thing is for sure, you are extremely self-righteous. Better doubt everything. My two cents though.

2017/11/24(金) 21:09:48.97

>>162
かわいがり is not a bullying targeted at minorities

2017/11/24(金) 21:16:59.89

>>165
何度もいわれてるんだからルールを覚えてよ

replyしたい人の番号の前に>>をつけるんだよ

2017/11/24(金) 21:17:15.06

>>166
how do you define かわいがり? that induced murder at tokitsukaze stable on 2007.

2017/11/24(金) 21:18:02.67

>>164 I'm living in Japan surrounded by those who speak decent English.
So I had less chance to have conversations with strong accented Japanese.
I don't deny or blame someone, but just mentioned about my preference.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:19:05.55

@167. My bad

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:21:08.06

@169 Hope you enjoy Japan to the fullest, Soon enough, I bet you will get used to our accents.

2017/11/24(金) 21:32:49.26

>>171
I'm sorry to make you confused.
I am Japanese living in Japan.
I've talked about a little rare situation,
so it must be difficult to grasp.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:35:13.62

@172. *Sudden burst of laughter*

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:36:03.71

@168 Let me put it this way. かわいがり means love, while いじめ means bullying. In the case you mentioned above, I assume that かわいがり is being used ironically. いじめ is the suitable word for it.
Hope this helps.

2017/11/24(金) 21:37:03.90

かわいがりi is a traditional way in japanese smo world
it's a kind of violence, so it should not be.
but this is entirely unrelated to discrimination

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 21:46:44.87

True. Anything but dicsrimination. However, as you may know, bullying sometimes happens, no matter what country, workplace, or school it is. Miniorities are more likely to become an easy target then majorities.

2017/11/24(金) 21:57:22.73

Communist chinks need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/24(金) 21:58:29.17

>>172
now are we talking about sumo world, aren't we?
かわいがり is a kind of violence which a higher-order person commites against low-order one.
so this may be a power harassment

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/24(金) 22:17:54.75

Case closed

2017/11/24(金) 22:22:31.63

i always try to get rid of small pieces of food that are stuck between my teeth
with a toothpick after having a lunch.
basically those pieces are successfully taken away but sometimes i fail.
in such a case, i keep on being distracted while working. i can't concentrate.

2017/11/24(金) 22:45:54.55

>>180
please dont waste an opportunity to exercise your english skills on such a nonsense topic

2017/11/24(金) 23:34:41.38

What about communist chinks? They really need to stop bullying Tibet.

2017/11/24(金) 23:47:12.20

>>181
i feel sorry to hear that, i like nonsence.
i am attacked by so many directions/orders of "to be effective", "to be cost-saving",
"to be logical" or "to be time-saving" at the office in the daytime
that i would like to flirt with nonsense when i spend my valuable private time.

2017/11/25(土) 00:51:47.99

Retards condemn the white colonists and such daily, but not the communist chinks bullying Tibet for decades.
Instead, they are like "CHINA ARE THE FUTURE! WE ARE ONE WITH THE CHINA!"

Why? Because they are retarded. That's why.

2017/11/25(土) 04:50:14.25

Political issues are difficult thing to talk.I 've heard before that it is recommended to avoid to talk it in workplaces in the US.
It is understandable considering the political device in the country.
Unfortunately, Japan seems to follow suit the situation. Rift between political left and right-wing is bigger than ever.
Bigotry and nationalism prevail across the world.

2017/11/25(土) 05:01:06.39

what is political device...
I meant political devide.
I don't know whether it is my fault or voice recognition's fault.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 06:41:43.09

It sounds pretty strange when the Japanese accuse the Chinese of crimes against humanity. Those ignorant Japanese don’t even know that millions of Chinese people lost their lives when invaded.

2017/11/25(土) 06:50:50.96

Please do us all a favor and don't start this shit again.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:01:01.53

Give me a break. You are barking up the wrong tree !

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:03:35.09

Charity begins at home and house. Please feel free to post anything you like. Thank you in advance.

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:18:12.24

Yawn

**名無しさん＠英語勉強中** (AUW 0H3f-3rsG) · 2017/11/25(土) 07:21:47.26

Ugh. Mom. Give me back my toys. I’m going home !

2017/11/25(土) 07:24:00.10

I have a pen.
I have had a pen.
I had a pen.
I had had a pen.
I will have a pen.
I will have had a pen.
I am going to have a pen.
I am holding a pen.
I will be going to hold a pen.
I am going to be holding a pen.
I have been holding a pen.
I was hoding a pen.

So many tense. English is difficult

2017/11/25(土) 07:29:04.76

I will be going to hold a pen.×
I will be holding a pen ○